Summary
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a prominent anti-vaccine activist, seeks access to federal health data to challenge vaccine safety and potentially lead to their removal from the market. This raises concerns among public health experts about severe health consequences, especially for children, and the potential waste of resources on debunked theories. Despite Kennedy’s lack of medical expertise and the potential for misinformation, Trump has indicated his support for Kennedy’s role in a potential second administration.
Well, at least he’s not starting with a predefined conclusion or anything.
I’m pretty sure that data is already public.
So your understanding of the situation is RFK is asking for data that he already has access to?
Yes. I think so. I’d need more details about exactly what he’s looking for to be sure. What specific vaccines, years, populations, to really be sure.
Right. But that data is presented objectively. He wants to present it in a way that reinforces his preconceived notions.
Not if it doesn’t prove his point.
Right?
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No, you see, they’re hiding stuff. The data that’s out there doesn’t support his hallucinations so, obviously, the real data is being hidden. /s
Classic worm brainrot 🙄
The worm is just trying to survive. Vaccines are a smokescreen. A dewormer ban will be the real target. Which is ironic because Trumpers love Ivermectin.
I think it’s important to remember that the wirm died in his brain. I assume because his thoughts are that toxic.
That’s what the worm wants you to think.
This is a shadow war between the Covid-19 superorganism and the brain worm psychic collective.
When reality starts to resemble a Futurama plot.
This is 100% possible in this fucked up place. If this happens I’m gonna be freaked out. What’s next, invasion of the body snatchers?
Aside from getting data and potentially sell it to more 3rd parties, isnt this a good thing to further test some vaccines? Its fair to be open to the thought that not all vaccines are safe
You know all that work is done before a vaccine is released to the public, right?
I remember how we all got vaccinated against COVID a few years ago and antivaxxers told us billions of people would be dead within a year and then they were right and society collapsed and this is all you hallucinating.
Further testing is good. We need to always be testing these. But Ignoring the mountains of data already taken and saying “I need further proof before I believe it all” is disingenuous. If all the data we have collected isn’t getting through to them, one more set of test results won’t, either.
It will get through to them when they hire an anti-vaxxer to run the tests and, of course, twists the data.
Ok thats true i def agree with that but this is less about them and more about getting more studies done to solidify any findings and to discover any points points of interest
No. It’s all about them, and their ignorance, which they believe should be given the same deference as our knowledge.
Vaccines have been in wide use for decades. They are effective. While they may have side effects, they pale in comparison to the harm that contracting the disease can cause. The findings are solid, especially for the ones that have been in use for decades like measles and polio. That son-of-a-bridge and his brain worm are not going to add anything worthwhile to the discussion.
Even the new ones with a small track record, like the COVID vaccine, shouldn’t be considered to be rushed. It was the result of pharma companies and government pouring as much money as possible into getting a safe vaccine as fast as possible, due to the profound human tragedy the virus caused. When money is no object, things can be done quickly and safely.
No one is saying studies should stop. Popping up and suggesting otherwise as if this nutjob has a point is just helping prop them up.
You know the thing about science is that it is peer reviewed. And a vaccine needs to be approved by health authorities.
The vaccines they question are common vaccines used all over the world. So they are approved by hundreds of health authorities globally that have all reviewed the evidence.
How exactly do you think an idiot being “skeptic” helps?Its not a thing about science if it were then we wouodnt see so many bullshit studies that attenpt to disprove climate change or how gas pollution doesnt exist.
Dont sit there acting like our science is untouched by politics and bad actors. You know damn well even peer reviewed studies can easily be made by malicious people
A reasonable skeptic is actually a smart one. And idiot will use absolute words or believe absolutely
A reasonable skeptic is actually a smart one.
Yeah maybe. But neither you nor the Brainworm driving the RFK Jr. skinsuit are reasonable skeptical. The Brainworm has decided that vaccines are bad, and is attempting to cherry pick much more data to try to back up his claims. And you are trying to say that behavior is valid and part of the scientific process, which it absolutely the fuck is not.
No where did i say his behavior is valid… read again
The vaccines have been tested, reviewed and used in a majority of the population and reviewed more. All the data is there. How much more do you need?
Where is any data at all showing them to be ineffective or dangerous? Where?
Do you really think government agencies are faking and hiding data so that people can be injected with vaccines that don’t work? If so, why? What evidence is there for this? What motivation could you even speculate on?
No one is claiming scientists are perfect. The reason we know there’s some bad science out there is because the process works.
You don’t get to claim scientists are lying without showing some fucking evidence.
You know damn well even peer reviewed studies can easily be made by malicious people
True, but it won’t pass the test for implementation, or the test of time, and probably not the test of foreign authorities either.
All common vaccines have a degree of safety, that degree is not 100% but generally very close.
The degree of safety of common vaccines is well known, and also the danger of NOT taking them.
Being a so called “skeptic” is more likely to put you in greater danger than less, if it causes you to avoid vaccines that are recognized for their efficacy.There is zero reasonable doubt that many people died or had permanent after effects because they were unvaccinated against COVID. The people preaching antivaxer idiocy about it are quacks.
True, but it won’t pass the test for implementation, or the test of time, and probably not the test of foreign authorities
The test of time would be reassuring if people wernt so easily brainwashed. Its been common knowledge that “little” of anything toxic may not show immediate damage and turns out in long term but that hasnt stopped the majority of people from accepting carcinogens in their food, etc.
For common vaccines that have an extensive history of studies, i agree. But for recent vaccines that were prematurely approved for emergency use it is still wise to be skeptic because of the sane reason as before, corruption in the academic studies.
It is still too recent to not acknowledge the potential unidentified risks. Vaccines or not, the logic applies to anything newly developed.
if people wernt so easily brainwashed.
You sound like you’re the one who is brainwashed.
Regarding toxic compounds that are used in some vaccines, the amounts are so minuscule that you breathe many times more more for instance quicksilver than you’ll ever get from vaccines.
And for instance B12, an amazing vitamin, that helps the body get rid of toxins, contains cobalt as an essential part.But for recent vaccines that were prematurely approved for emergency use it is still wise to be skeptic
Although they were approved quickly, Covid vaccines were way more safe than not getting it. Not just barely, but by a factor of 1000. Mind you, I’m not saying safer than getting COVID, because that would be even higher.
I agree that generally it’s advisable to be skeptic, but the advise is not to be skeptic AGAINST EVIDENCE!!
And especially not when your life is at stake.RFK jr. is a moron, and that includes his view on vaccines.
Being skeptic is extremely important when it comes to claims without evidence, the more fantastic the claim, the more the need for evidence.
For some reason many of those antivaxer “sceptics” are religious, and believe the most outrageous nonsense in that regard too.COVID vaccines have been given for almost 4 years now. How much more time do you need?
If the COVID vaccine kills me 30 years from now, I won’t be too broken up about it.
So as a rando coming in here the key thing is the word reasonable. As buffalox pointed out these have been studied and approved by many agencies from many countries over a long time frame and studies for long term effects are still ongoing so its not like we aren’t currently still working on things. So we are already at a reasonable level of skepticism. jfk junior is at an unreasonable I will search until data fits my opinion level.
I would bet that they will restrict the distribution of existing and new vaccines first, and then perform the investigation slowly, wasting money and time, and causing unnecessary harm.
That is definitely a bad outcome and i wouldn’t be surprised these guys would be aiming for that
