Full title: I hid a link on my website that only bots can see and told them not to follow it. They broke the rules and in 4 days they went 124,414 levels deep into an endless maze. One bot opened 782,580 doors. I thought this was super interesting, this is how the internet is these days. Thought I’d share.
Can anyone explain what is happening behind the scenes with the “room creation”?? That sounds intriguing. I understand OP is a bot but, is anything described here an actual way of trapping crawlers? How are the crawlers fooled by any of this?
So what you’re implying is this should be implemented in every website in both follow/not follow just to waste their money?
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“You” did no such thing.
Account blocked. Bot, or not.
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Apparently some bot programmers are assholes who ignore
rel="nofollow".robots.txt only keeps the honest robots out
Is ironic the word for OP being a repost bot? Or is it just expected at this point?
How do you know? Just curious.
Post history and seeing the same username every day. Plus they rarely every respond to questions and comments when they post and what they respond with is generic.
If you see the same username every day, that means you are on every day… only a spy would do that.
Suspected Chinese agent, possibly Russian
What’s the purpose of doing this as a bot but not declaring the account as a bot account? On other sites, they do it for karma farming, but that doesn’t really apply here, right?
Probably just another layer of analytics for engagement bait in other spaces. They can also copy top comments and train LLMs and whatever else every bad actor does to every internet comment site now. They are like a slime mold and grow toward any source of nutrition except it’s an n-dimensional maze and the nutrition is influencing public opinion and scamming people.
Maybe it’s the bot of the guy who thought the only way to save the threadiverse is by having bots repost almost everything from Reddit.
In other words, you don’t really know - not that there’s anything wrong with that. Opinions and “it’s obvious” are the social media standard for “fact”.
That user has a history of reposting reddit content and the format and pattern of posts are obviously not human. All of its posts are originally from reddit. A simple search of its posts will show you they are copied word for word from an older reddit post. What more evidence do you need?
I prefer to think of it as being observant and investigating but to each their own. OP has been called out on almost every post and never defended themselves. Could be a human who doesn’t check the replies but either way, the behavior is the same.
Nah those people complaining are reddit agents. Trying to ruin lemmy
Comments accusing critics of being “Reddit Agents” are an indicator of a specific spammer. They are a proven operator of LLM-driven spambots. Two weeks ago one of their alts, sanitation@lemmy.today, left their prompt in the title and body of a post.
lol not even a little. I’m trying to grow my lemmy communities. I have no problem with it being a bot, that’s why I haven’t blocked it. My issue is that it’s not declared as a bot. Several times I’ve found myself asking further questions to just realize, it’s that same guy who posted a “my super cool thing” five minutes ago and I won’t get a response to my question. There’s no way he has a jurrasic park themed turtle sanctuary in addition to the other 50 sweet things in his house/yard/town/
Man do I hate the age we live in now, where people are actively having to declare war on scrapers like this because AI bros have literally zero respect towards the rest of the internet.
I just hope all that endless maze scraping cost some asshat a decent chunk of money.
Right! This isn’t “AI going rogue”, it’s software agents made and employed by perfectly human psychopaths, doing what they were made to do.
I just hope all that endless maze scraping cost some asshat a decent chunk of money.
Unfortunately, it probably cost the maze’s owner nearly as much, due to all the traffic.
What if instead of trying to cost them directly with crawling, you made what they crawl worthless? Could somewhat ironically use an LLM to generate gibberish output for them to feed on. Or a bash script can do it too.
That’s exactly what Iocaine does.
No, you didn’t.
What is this? It’s really freaking me out.
Yeah I have OP listed as “repost bot” so if I see something cool I can go check somewhere else for the info.
How do you know?
Look at their profile. 460 posts, 45 comments, in just 1 month. If they aren’t automating their posts they need to go touch grass.
An overwhelming number of their posts have titles like “I made this thing”, but are clearly just popular posts ripped straight from Reddit.
I also have them tagged as a repost bot. I’m not blocking them, but don’t bother trying to engage like the content is somehow organic or original.
Yeah, that’s my issue. Like some stuff is cool, I want to ask follow up questions. But OP didn’t make or create any of the things they’re posting so they’ll never know the answer. Which is fine, if you link to the original source. I understand that sometimes you can’t link the original source but like, be upfront. I repost things from reddit in !bestofinternetupdates@lemmy.world. But I do it by hand and I link back to the original locations in case people want more information or to see the original source.
You can find the original post on Reddit, somebody has already linked the original post down the thread. This is typical of this user and a few others like sanitation who have become notorious for using Reddit repost bots many times with errors in the repost like not having all of the image or not having any of the post body.
It’s very annoying.
Also interested in how you know. Just commenting to get notificated (:
Post quantities are a big indicator. A stronger indicator in this case is that their only comment on this post is accusing people of being “Reddit Agents”. That points to a specific spambot operator with multiple alts that refuses to declare any of them as bots. They had a malfunction two weeks ago that left their LLM prompt in a post.
Designing impossible mazes for AI to get lost in as a matter of civil defense? What a fucking world we live in…
There’s a few open source programs out there for doing precisely this. Iocaine, Nepenthes, and Book of Infinity are the three I know of. There may be more
🔥 this is fine
You know, I wonder if the AI agents are willing to open random zip files they find on websites, and I’m further curious if they’re smart enough to avoid a zip bomb.
Can follow JWZ for practical experience on this kind of thing - apparently it is getting so bad that even opening a connection to deliver the zip bombs is getting infeasible now.
can you turn this into a WP plug-in?
please?
edit: I see now that this is a repost bot agcount. But hey, maybe someone else can design a plugin.
Look up “tarpit” plug ins, most of this is ready to use. I see quite a few when I search, but I’m not familiar with the wordpress world, so can’t really recommend one or the other.
It’s ironic that you advertise yourself as having “time to lose” but you don’t have “time to replace 1st person pronouns with more accurate 3rd person ones.”
Throw in a few of them torture chambers and make it a proper dungeon >:)
We already got one and people are crying their eyes out because poor bots. https://www.404media.co/someone-torturing-llms-in-a-robot-prison-has-triggered-the-dumbest-debate-in-ai-yet/
Yeah but I thought maybe we could add it from the repo somehow so if the bot got extra lost going through doors it wasn’t supposed to look behind, that it got in trouble and got a spanking
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Is this why porn is so good now?
Where are you getting your porn from, 'cause between ID-checking roadblocks and the fact that no can seem to make a decent search engine anymore, I’ve never had a more difficult time trying to find good porn. Please, share with me your secrets (and no, I am never going to give my ID to a porn site!)
Yandex.
Isn’t Yandex a Russian search engine? I meant a porntube site. That way I can create an account and have a recommendation algorithm.
You need an account to jerk off?
Have you ever tried to watch porn without an account before? It’s like watching YouTube without one. It’s the Wild West, and every video sucks. That’s the problem I’m having. Nobody makes a good porn site with a good search function anymore.
I’m literally doing as we speak.
Well you’re not the person who can help me, then. Clearly your needs are less specific than mine.
That’s fine, I need to take a break from porn anyway.
