Creating slop featuring Tung Tung Tung Sahur is more important, than travelling by EVs! /j
Good point, except it’s kinda dumb of us to act like the hypocrisy is particularly relevant.
It’s lying, it’s bad faith, it’s violence.
They go to massive lengths to pretend it’s not, so yes, it is always a fantastic use of time to tell that truth about it. They do care, deeply, about not being perceived that way.
I know the post isn’t wrong per se, but the fact that it seems to be all I hear means we, ourselves, don’t have this the right way round. Let’s focus on the focus that changes things, not scores dumb points on our end.
That said: great post 😎
I’ve never heard that the power grid couldn’t handle electric vehicles
So, working for a power company, I have some insight for you on this. This is still the power companies doing bullshit, but there is some truth to the grid being unable to handle electric vehicles. We are seeing the same issue with electric tankless water heaters.
Most companies, unless you ask and pay for it, will size a transformer for your house as small as they can get away with. 15 to 25kVA is kinda standard for overhead, while 50 to 75kVA for padmount is usual (because the same transformer will serve two to four houses).
If you install a fast charger on your house, and run the dryer, and the water heater turns on, the fuse will blow on the transformer. Then you call in an outage, they have to put a new fuse on, and usually don’t tell you what was wrong. Then once you figure it out, they have to tell you that you can’t do all that (and lose revenue from all the downtime and sending a technican) or they have to put up a bigger transformer.
It’s far easier to say “lol our grid is old and bad” than “we don’t want to spend out profits on needed upgrades and maintenance”. Meanwhile, data centers are exclusively connected directly to a substation that can handle their needs or to their own dedicated transformer banks directly off of transmission lines. Never are they on some back woods tap fifteen miles from their substation.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/01/why-the-ev-boom-could-put-a-major-strain-on-our-power-grid.html
It was definitely a talking point for a bit. It was looked into and proven incorrect. It was most likely always a lie to further discourage people on the fence from giving up gas cars. I’m sure it had an impact on some people out there so it probably worked.
The models literally assumed everyone charged their car at exactly the same time. It was all anti EV bullshit from the start.
100%
Even when it was easily proven incorrect it remained a common talking point from people opposed to EVs. Much of that opposition was for ideological/financial reasons, so facts didn’t really matter.
Most anti EV people I’ve spoken to just repeat the same old untrue things. It’s more expensive in electricity to charge it, you can’t drive it interstate, the grid can’t handle it, the electricity generated is worse than petrol emissions, the batteries are pure Evilium or something that will eradicate all life on Earth, you can’t even drive it to work because the range is bad, it will lose range and be undrivable in 5 years, etc…
None of it true of course. But the truth has never stopped a good story
I wonder whether production of gasoline (per car) takes more power than charging a car
I’m not so sure it had any meaningful impact or that it was ever even a significant talking point.
My dad STILL brings it up when EVs are mentioned. It was definitely a talking point in those circles.
Oh well if your dad allegedly brings it up, then case closed!
I worked in car sales in 2021, so many people didn’t want to consider a hybrid or all electric because it was “worse for the environment than gas”, or the “construction of the batteries was worse for the environment than an oil rig”, or the idea of having to replace two different batteries every “few years” was wasteful and more expensive then just buying a gas car you only had to replace one battery on. And that was just 5 years ago…
Like the people against EV were/are sucking the exhaust pipes these manufacturers were/are pumping propaganda out of completely dry, people are really ignorant and tend to not do any research on their own and depend on the news outlets and industry leaders to do all their research for them, especially when it comes to vehicle purchases.
Most of the people that were against EVs in my experience were people that purchased $70k-$90k trucks with all the bells and whistles… They had no reason to save money by switching off gas.
It’s not just this guy’s dad, there’s a lot of them out there, all across the world.
That was the argument my conservative coworkers made - “I would support electric vehicles, but our grid cannot handle them”
You must not hang around with morons.
Ok
No, see, it’s because we have so many electric vehicles that the grid has extra capacity for data centers! It’s just math, duh.
I can keep my EV charged up most of the time with a 120v outlet. Sometimes if I need a full charge I will hook it up to the 240v 20a outlet and it will top it up.
