Yea yea I know, not all contradictions imply a fundamental error.

This line is currently in popular usage by online liberals who are forced to work through their brainworms as China ascends, as DPRK approaches normalization, as Iran demonstrates its regional force, as Ukraine inevitably loses, as the US murders and still loses, as Sahel states inch toward sovereignty. These contradictions are becoming more striking and difficult to hand-wave. And in the first phase of this dissonance, the reflex is to allow the dissonance no matter how deafening.

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    I’m leftist myself, but how the fuck can anyone actually, non ironically, fucking support North Korea? It’s even worse than the US, and the US put the bar really high in the first place (look at the healthcare, insurance and rent issues in the US for example).

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      Do you know why there are two Koreas? There was a single unified Korea until shortly after Kim Il Sung liberated them from Japanese occupation with help from USSR and China. How did they end up being split into North and South?

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        Then the US ruined everything with the Korean War, I know, because they didn’t want to lose influence in Asia because of the USSR.

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          The US continued ruining everything with its economic siege war. The destruction of the USSR lead to economic collapse and internal turmoil because the US war against the people never ended. The suffering you heard about was caused by the US.

          Surely you know about Cuba suffering blackouts - do you think that’s their government’s fault too?

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          If you know this and even if we assume the worst things you know about North Korea to be true, how can you put US and DPRK on the scales and weigh them against each other seeing how the former is directly responsible for how the latter turned out to be?

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      physically impossible for the dprk to be worse than the united states, especially given how many of their issues stem from american policy and genocide. And none of those internal problems will resolve themselves while they’re under siege, so the only job of western leftists is to advocate for a lifting of sanctions and us forces out of the korean penninsula

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      It’s even worse than the US

      When was the last time the dprk triple tapped a school and killed ~170 children? When was the last time they bombed or invaded ANY country?

      I don’t think the dprk is some perfect utopia where nothing bad ever happens, but I believe that most problems they face are from the fact they have been under siege from the west pretty much their entire existence.

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      Idk. One of these countries hasn’t sanctioned, invaded, or bombed another one and is currently in the middle of one of the largest electrification and rise of standards of living since their wealthy neighbors decided to completely ignore sanctions and actually trade valuable components that cannot be easily manufactured within the country. The other is the U.S.

      Wow. Damn. That sure was easy, wasn’t it?

      You’re really up your own fucking ass aren’t you? Basically an American with your arrogance for someone who claims that English isn’t their first language. I can basically smell the shit on your breath. Brush your teeth and gargle some mouthwash.

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      (look at the healthcare, insurance and rent issues for example).

      All of these are nationalized in the DPRK and enshrined into the nation’s constitution which is freely available online to read via the kfausa website.

      Nobody on the site supports the DPRK because politics is not a spectator sport. You should get rid of the habit of making these types of inflammatory statements and declaring self evident truths because you’re just going to provoke people.

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        Literally I was talking about the US lmao, you should learn how to read.

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          I’m leftist myself, but how the fuck can anyone actually, non ironically, fucking support North Korea

          thinking-about-it

          Literally I was talking about the US lmao, you should learn how to read.

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