Kinda like now, only now there’s a lot more dead bodies
It’s objectively worse now buddy. That’s not in debate from anyone in the world.
+1. In my personal life things are much better and improved, but in terms of world stability, health of politics (at least where I live), the observed impacts of climate change, etc. pre-2016 was so much better on average.
Trump’s first term was a meme because it was just him slamming into government red tape every 5 seconds he wanted to do something stupid.
He learned his lesson and made sure to nuke every administration his second term with his own cronies lol.
When his first term ended, you could almost taste the relief that he never managed to do anything terrible and its like it was a 4-year lesson the world had to learn… Then the dipshits in charge failed to put the diaper-stain in jail to rot for his corruption.
People underestimate how much SCOTUS helped.
We have 6 people there that no longer care about the Constitution.
During that time I mentioned that Biden should have just jailed him over Jan 6. No trial needed, it was clear as day.
Got downvoted hard cause of mah process
Process matters more than outcome.
Then the dipshits in charge failed to put the diaper-stain in jail to rot for his corruption.
Justice is glacial or non-existent against people with money. It would have happened if he didn’t win a second term.
Most people didn’t believe he’d win in 2016, so they had no plan. They were ready for the second time.
2016 sucked too, but less than 2026 does. AND you were younger, potentially more oblivious to many of the world’s issues (depending on age).
Both can be true at the same time. Nostalgia plays a big role here, but it’s by no means the only role.
Also it sucked way less because there were a lot of people helped mitigated the damage by having spines
I remember when the world thought George Dubya Bush was the dumbest president the US would ever have. This is worse in basically every possible measure.
Well, he caused about a million deaths and countless refugees from the Middle East. The chaos just didn’t reach the US in the same way as the one caused by Pedolf Diddler.
Even more than that, in a lot of ways this is the chaos he unleashed coming back on us. ICE was created by his administration as part of the overreaction to 9/11, and their whole strategy of “say person doesn’t have legal status, detain them in the cheapest and most dangerous facility possible, and charge taxpayers a king’s ransom to do it” was first dreamed up by the fucking ghouls in his DOJ, they just called them “enemy combatants” instead of “illegal aliens.”
Yes, it’s definitely a continuum and important to keep in mind. Thinking ahead, we don’t yet know what kind of ripple effects we see from the current administrator in 15-20 years…
The chaos just didn’t reach the US
The consequences and refugees of the Bush imperialist wars did reach Europe though. It helped right wing ideology to rise.
In Trump’s first term, the one good thing was that he didn’t start a new war and create more refugees and devastation. Of course now he and his masters are purposefully wrecking the global economy which is worse.
Yep, the reason I don’t want to mention Europe here is because Bush was and still is pretty widely despised in Europe as it is. I feel like the US still looks back at him with some nostalgia (remember how funny he was in that golf video?), but IMO it’s just because they didn’t really face any direct repercussions. Even if they paid trillions for his stupid wars, the effect was more indirect.
didn’t really face any direct repercussions.
Other than, like, the PATRIOT act and the beginning of the end for privacy and civil rights in the name of national security. Or a ton of education programs gutted to support No Child Left Behind. The effects might not be obvious but they are directly caused by his administration.
I don’t disagree with you, but I feel like we’re talking about different things. My focus is on what the general population sees and feels, yours is in on the legislative impact of the administration. The effects of those laws are of course felt now, but not many can draw the line back to the Bush administration when making the next voting decision. Contrast this to the Iran war, where the gas prices rose within weeks or days.
If I remember correctly, it began to suck in 2001.
It took a pretty solid nosedive then, but the groundwork was laid by Reagan.
Or Nixon. Or the Red Scare. Or the Civil War and the failure of Reconstruction. Or in fourteen-hundred-ninety-two when Columbus sailed the ocean blue…
I’m just talking about things sucking in America, we can easily expand to the world’s issues just by tracking the unchallenged expansion of Europe’s influence or the Abrahamic religions.
It’s always 2 steps forward, at least 1 step back but most of the biggest problems that are happening now are specifically the coming from seed planted by the Reagan administration.
It was better the first time around, fight me.
Atleast we had 8 years of relative sanity within the government. Like it was trash but atleast it was painted a nice colour. Now it’s just them shitting on the trash.
It was better the first time around because they were incompetent noobs. Now, they know the levers better and are wrecking shit faster and harder.
I was 14 in 2016; I lived in a red town back then & all I knew was “funny old blonde realtor who says dumb memeable shit on TV & Twitter is gonna be president? PEAK COMEDY ROFLMFAOOL”
10 years later, I have since been thoroughly disabused of that immature, uneducated teenage mindset.
Are you trying to say that people don’t think 2016 was bad, or are you trying to say that 2016 is worse than now? Because I don’t see anyone making either of those arguments.
The first trump admin was bad, but the second one is objectively worse. Even his fanbois are starting to notice how much worse it is. It would be funny if I didn’t have to live through them having to deal with the consequences of their actions, cuz I have to too.
That’s when it started sucking really bad.
ICE wasn’t on rampage.
They probably were, but it probably wasn’t getting as much attention
At least the first time around he had appointees with actual government experience. This time it’s all low wattage knuckle dragging sycophants drawn from the storied ranks of podcasters, bloggers and pundits
Obama was president in 2016. I don’t think it was bad
You clearly have forgotten the horrors of the tan suit and the chaos of the Dijon mustard.
The early '90s felt really hopeful to me growing up in the US. Berlin wall fell and Germany re-united, the USSR broke apart, technology was advancing, the promise of the internet, etc. I also wasn’t out on my own in the early part of the '90s, though, so there is certainly some things I wasn’t experiencing nor aware of. It’s not to say things were perfect at all. I don’t know that I ever felt that hope for the future again.
All that to say, this meme has basically always been around is generally accurate.
Must’ve been blissfully unaware of climate change
I grew up on the edge of the rust belt in a small area. We were told from a young age about water conservation, the acid rain problem at the time from factories around the great lakes and that pollution from factories was causing it, etc.
Later, when news about the hole in the ozone layer was coming out, it also felt at least somewhat hopeful because countries began to talk more about pollution and climate (though I think this began in the mid-to-late '90s not in the early part I mentioned)EDIT: Montreal protocol was all the way back in '87 and that’s what I was thinking of; time kinda blends together a bit 30-something years later. At the time, it looked like that might amount to something.You’ll also note that I specifically said that things were not at all perfect. I also don’t actually remember the phrase “global warming” being a thing back then and certainly not the later ‘climate change’, but that’s not to say nothing was going on. (in a quick search, it looks like “global warming” as a phrase appeared in a scientific paper in 1975, but I don’t know when it gained traction in the news and common usage that I would have heard).
Further, I also said that the meme was accurate going further back than the stated date. It’s also possible to be hopeful about some things and not others. The actual state today for humanity as a whole is better than it was in 2016. Some places have backslid in some ways, but overall, it’s better. I suspect it will continue to backslide in some areas but improve more in others. Does that inspire me personally with a feeling of hope or joy? Not particularly, especially when we have AI/datacenter craze and whatever the hell the US is doing.
I was an addict and in mild psychosis in 2016. Doing way better now
Congrats!
/r/fuck2016 was subreddit of the year.
