Its kind of a funny thing because very popular policies like free healthcare, free education, and even stuff like legal weed get called socialism by the right. So it’s understandable that a lot of normal folks come to the conclusion that this socialism stuff is pretty cool. I just assume that, to most Americans, socialism just means large-scale socdem programs, (which, stay with me for a moment) would still be a big win for the American working class… so I’ll take it.
That is literally how I became a communist, I just said I wanted to make everything better got called a communist and then a week later I was listening to Das Kapital audio books and watching David Harveys college lectures so I could understand it better. So it kinda works lol
It does actually work yeah. Folks like you are the ideal candidates for teach-ins, reading groups, etc. Feeder and education events so that people who are like, “maybe I’m socialist?” can become socialists.
this is why you need a vanguard. the unprincipled masses will support “socialism” and some of us who know that means more than the government doing stuff need to be leading.
you also have to watch out for nazis because they’ll fly red flags and call themselves socialist and boggart that public support.
It’s progress. It’s not nearly enough, but it’s not nothing either. I’m not convinced that Demsocs will get us where we need to go, and I think revolution is the only true way to get there, but I’m willing to hear them out and give them a chance, and we’ll be there for them if and when they either exhaust themselves or reach our way of thinking.
Also most successful communist movements spawned either from a social democratic movement that was resisted too much (Like the RSDLP), or from anti-colonial movements (which isn’t really relevant to the US)
The main counter example being the GDR, which came from military occupation by a communist power, which has always been what I assumed was the most likely method of getting socialism in the US, but I’d prefer to not have a global war so destructive that the United States gets occupied by China.
Its kind of a funny thing because very popular policies like free healthcare, free education, and even stuff like legal weed get called socialism by the right. So it’s understandable that a lot of normal folks come to the conclusion that this socialism stuff is pretty cool. I just assume that, to most Americans, socialism just means large-scale socdem programs, (which, stay with me for a moment) would still be a big win for the American working class… so I’ll take it.
That is literally how I became a communist, I just said I wanted to make everything better got called a communist and then a week later I was listening to Das Kapital audio books and watching David Harveys college lectures so I could understand it better. So it kinda works lol
It does actually work yeah. Folks like you are the ideal candidates for teach-ins, reading groups, etc. Feeder and education events so that people who are like, “maybe I’m socialist?” can become socialists.
this is why you need a vanguard. the unprincipled masses will support “socialism” and some of us who know that means more than the government doing stuff need to be leading.
you also have to watch out for nazis because they’ll fly red flags and call themselves socialist and boggart that public support.
In the UK a similar survey to this was taken a few years ago but it included the pairing with gauging how people define it:
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/new-poll-finds-strong-support-socialism-uk
29% of 18-34s support Communism
53% of 18-34s support Socialism
39% of all people in the UK surveyed (all age groups) also defined Socialism correctly
“Worryingly, young people in the uk also have the highest support for communism”
Lol. Lmao.
I think having a multiple choice option biases it a bit.
It’s progress. It’s not nearly enough, but it’s not nothing either. I’m not convinced that Demsocs will get us where we need to go, and I think revolution is the only true way to get there, but I’m willing to hear them out and give them a chance, and we’ll be there for them if and when they either exhaust themselves or reach our way of thinking.
Also most successful communist movements spawned either from a social democratic movement that was resisted too much (Like the RSDLP), or from anti-colonial movements (which isn’t really relevant to the US)
The main counter example being the GDR, which came from military occupation by a communist power, which has always been what I assumed was the most likely method of getting socialism in the US, but I’d prefer to not have a global war so destructive that the United States gets occupied by China.
What if the national debt paranoia of previous conservatives was true, and China simply reposses the country?
🤞
It’s only to lull them back into complacency, consumerism, and inertia.