Reforming from the inside is liberal fantasy. The party is operating as designed and they will not allow anyone to vote away their power.
The solution is to abandon the DNC and support an actual party representing the working class. 3rd party’s do not siphon away votes because we wouldn’t vote for your party if there were no 3rd option on the ballot. We are not democrats so we would not vote for a democrat
In a first past the post democracy there is no 3rd party. There is only the thing that is slightly better. Who is better in everything you want? Trump or Harris? If you say something else. But Harris is Closer to what you want and you choose the 3rd option you are choosing to help Trump win in your state. You choosing 3rd party is one less vote Trump has to win. If you want the green parties policies Trump is the furthest away from it. The time to move the party was during the primary. Now we have to vote for the furthest left thing that has the strongest chance of winning OR we get the right wing thing. Potentially never getting a chance to vote again if you listen to Trump.
The most minuscule way protest votes are possible is if you live in an overwhelmingly Blue state and you know Harris will win sure vote 3rd party but in Georgia when 11,000 people decided the outcome we can’t risk a movement of voting 3rd party. Title 9 , abortion, climate change belief in government, federal agencies, EPA, postal service, FTC, SEC, redistricting to make fair election maps for the senate and congress, manufacturing, and so much more is on the chopping block for Trump and Republicans let alone more supreme court and federal judges
That sounds like a bunch of lesser evil bullshit, lesser evil doesnt exist. That’s bullshit liberals tell themselves to make them feel better for not having the proverbial balls to vote their conscience and do what’s right. It prolongs the suffering of marginalized because they prefer a slow agonizing death over a quick one. There is also the choice of no death. 50.yesrs of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has grown into an enormous one that they can’t control. This is the bed they made and want non Democrats to help them out of the mess they created. Good luck
I voted 3rd party as a protest vote in a few elections up to 2012, but I recognized that it was exactly that. I also have lived through a term with Trump as president. Because of Trump, women in this country have lost their reproductive rights. That is just the most obvious example of how he has hurt this country. The fact you are still not recognizing that Trump regaining the presidency is an existential threat to democracy is exasperating, especially when the majority of Democrats are allies to a good portion of the Green Party’s so-called platform. Ultimately, you need to face facts: Stein is clearly a shill for Putin and a spoiler for the election.
The protest vote is a vote of capitulation for the duopoly. A 3rd party vote cast out of conviction is a vote for democracy. Yours is based on fear and irrationality.
Dems are only mouth pieces for progress, all talk, zero action. Rince and repeat every election cycle.
I am sure your moral high ground will comfort you when Trump opens concentration camps in our own country for the undocumented (among others), and we literally live in A Handmaiden’s Tale. When the “dictator on day one” throws away our constitution and strips our lives away, remember how stoic you are! It could be the last election your vote is even counted for the Green Party, so I hope you are proud of your convictions!
The Dems aren’t perfect, but they aren’t comprised by Russia like both The Green Party and the GOP. Yes, I’m scared. I saw what happened last time. Why the hell aren’t you?
Riiiiight. They’ll never overturn Roe, that’s got judicial standing. It’s downright hysterical to suggest such a thing could happen. It’s not like we could live in an America with a 3rd of American women under an abortion ban right, and a national ban looming? RIGHT? And it would be unthinkable to intentionally and irrevocably separate families right? Not for any procedural necessity, but just to brutally traumatize anyone who tries to make a crossing. That’d be a pretty fucked up inhuman policy RIGHT?
The dnc knew it did not have judicial standing, that’s why they had promised for decades to codify Roe into law. Democrats have this bizarre worldview that everything Republicans do is inhuman, but when their own party adopt those same policies they’re busy at brunch. Or even better yet, when it’s Democrats that build the systems that Republicans take advantage of you turn a blind eye and only point fingers at Republicans, the way that they screamed about kids in cages under Trump while ignoring who built the motherfucking cages and is still locking kids up in cages. while adopting more draconian immigration laws than Republicans have in decades.
Yeah. None of what you said it true tho? For the border I’d recommend this book Everyone who is gone is here by Jonathan Blitzer. And they can’t codify without the votes? Remember Obamacare? To agree with you I’d have to only become political aware a couple years ago and never read more than headlines. Pick up a book, watch some cspan, try again.
It’s 100% true. And when Democrat voters were told that they did not have the votes, where were their calls to have those voting pro life primaried? Their typical answer has always been 'We’ve tried nothing and are all out of ideas"
Reforming from the inside is liberal fantasy. The party is operating as designed and they will not allow anyone to vote away their power.
The solution is to abandon the DNC and support an actual party representing the working class. 3rd party’s do not siphon away votes because we wouldn’t vote for your party if there were no 3rd option on the ballot. We are not democrats so we would not vote for a democrat
In a first past the post democracy there is no 3rd party. There is only the thing that is slightly better. Who is better in everything you want? Trump or Harris? If you say something else. But Harris is Closer to what you want and you choose the 3rd option you are choosing to help Trump win in your state. You choosing 3rd party is one less vote Trump has to win. If you want the green parties policies Trump is the furthest away from it. The time to move the party was during the primary. Now we have to vote for the furthest left thing that has the strongest chance of winning OR we get the right wing thing. Potentially never getting a chance to vote again if you listen to Trump.
The most minuscule way protest votes are possible is if you live in an overwhelmingly Blue state and you know Harris will win sure vote 3rd party but in Georgia when 11,000 people decided the outcome we can’t risk a movement of voting 3rd party. Title 9 , abortion, climate change belief in government, federal agencies, EPA, postal service, FTC, SEC, redistricting to make fair election maps for the senate and congress, manufacturing, and so much more is on the chopping block for Trump and Republicans let alone more supreme court and federal judges
That sounds like a bunch of lesser evil bullshit, lesser evil doesnt exist. That’s bullshit liberals tell themselves to make them feel better for not having the proverbial balls to vote their conscience and do what’s right. It prolongs the suffering of marginalized because they prefer a slow agonizing death over a quick one. There is also the choice of no death. 50.yesrs of liberal ‘lesser evil’ has grown into an enormous one that they can’t control. This is the bed they made and want non Democrats to help them out of the mess they created. Good luck
I voted 3rd party as a protest vote in a few elections up to 2012, but I recognized that it was exactly that. I also have lived through a term with Trump as president. Because of Trump, women in this country have lost their reproductive rights. That is just the most obvious example of how he has hurt this country. The fact you are still not recognizing that Trump regaining the presidency is an existential threat to democracy is exasperating, especially when the majority of Democrats are allies to a good portion of the Green Party’s so-called platform. Ultimately, you need to face facts: Stein is clearly a shill for Putin and a spoiler for the election.
The protest vote is a vote of capitulation for the duopoly. A 3rd party vote cast out of conviction is a vote for democracy. Yours is based on fear and irrationality.
Dems are only mouth pieces for progress, all talk, zero action. Rince and repeat every election cycle.
I am sure your moral high ground will comfort you when Trump opens concentration camps in our own country for the undocumented (among others), and we literally live in A Handmaiden’s Tale. When the “dictator on day one” throws away our constitution and strips our lives away, remember how stoic you are! It could be the last election your vote is even counted for the Green Party, so I hope you are proud of your convictions!
The Dems aren’t perfect, but they aren’t comprised by Russia like both The Green Party and the GOP. Yes, I’m scared. I saw what happened last time. Why the hell aren’t you?
Like a rabbit in the open terrified of the wind. Everything you claimed is hyperbole
Riiiiight. They’ll never overturn Roe, that’s got judicial standing. It’s downright hysterical to suggest such a thing could happen. It’s not like we could live in an America with a 3rd of American women under an abortion ban right, and a national ban looming? RIGHT? And it would be unthinkable to intentionally and irrevocably separate families right? Not for any procedural necessity, but just to brutally traumatize anyone who tries to make a crossing. That’d be a pretty fucked up inhuman policy RIGHT?
The dnc knew it did not have judicial standing, that’s why they had promised for decades to codify Roe into law. Democrats have this bizarre worldview that everything Republicans do is inhuman, but when their own party adopt those same policies they’re busy at brunch. Or even better yet, when it’s Democrats that build the systems that Republicans take advantage of you turn a blind eye and only point fingers at Republicans, the way that they screamed about kids in cages under Trump while ignoring who built the motherfucking cages and is still locking kids up in cages. while adopting more draconian immigration laws than Republicans have in decades.
Yeah. None of what you said it true tho? For the border I’d recommend this book Everyone who is gone is here by Jonathan Blitzer. And they can’t codify without the votes? Remember Obamacare? To agree with you I’d have to only become political aware a couple years ago and never read more than headlines. Pick up a book, watch some cspan, try again.
It’s 100% true. And when Democrat voters were told that they did not have the votes, where were their calls to have those voting pro life primaried? Their typical answer has always been 'We’ve tried nothing and are all out of ideas"