This is tough, because I would like to see China as more sensible than Russia, and their help to Russia does not seem overwhelming.
Still this is cause to worry IMO. Because China claims to support international law, but training troops to fight in an illegal war against Ukraine is obviously contrary to supporting international law, as China claim they do.
I still hope China will be a more reasonable player on the international scene than what USA has become, and will adopt a more EU like approach of prosperity through cooperation.
If they do we will have a bright future ahead on both sides. If they don’t, the world will become a lot worse than during the Pax America era that is coming to an end. Because China could become even more powerful than USA used to be.China says they support international law, but then dont, look at what they do in the south pacific, the 9 dashes or whatever, making territorial claims against the Philippines and Taiwan, copy right infringement etc. Im not mad at China for training russian troops they are somewhat friendly to one another.
I think the artificial islands is China trying to be clever. Allegedly they are doing that to ensure their commercial traffic, IDK if this is really necessary? But some say that USA (through allies) have China kind of locked in, and could block Chinese transports in case of conflict.
If that is true, I can understand how that is a problem for China, and why they are trying to get around it.No, that’s just excusing china’s behavior. They do shit like all the big players do
The UN recognizes that Taiwan is a province of the nation-state of China. That’s why there is no official Taiwan delegation to the UN.
And the un is wrong an awful lot. Taiwan is its own nation. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
Well, it’s certainly not it’s own nation as Taiwan people are part of the Han Chinese nation. Perhaps the Han Chinese in Taiwan will eventually become a State that is separate from China. But so far that hasn’t happened.
Taiwan is de facto an independent state. They have their own customs (as in economy), their own military and their own independent government.
No one officially recognizes it as independent because - as it turns out - neither China has any interest in changing the status quo. It is however very much implicitly recognized as independent considering trade deals made with mainland China do not affect trade deals with Taiwan and vice versa.
For all intents and purposes, Taiwan is more of a country than England but you’ll find hardly anyone argue that England does not have countryhood.
Country / state / nation. These words have meaning. England is both a country and a nation but not an independent state. Taiwan meets the definition of a country in that it is defined territory, but it is not a nation. It is not an independent state, as it claims to be the government of China, not the government of Taiwan. It makes trade agreements as the government of China. And the reason other countries play along with this is because the US and UK decided that they would make Taiwan into a comprador proxy and invested tons of money into it, while they embargoed the shit out of China and no one was allowed to trade with both China and the USA. The evidence you are using for Taiwan being independent is actually evidence that they are dependent entirely on the USA. Without the USA, the KMT would have been stopped in their reign of terror long before 40 years were up and the province would have been reintegrated into China after 75 years of national trauma.
It is not an independent state, as it claims to be the government of China, not the government of Taiwan.
… which it only does because the PRC threatens with war if Taiwan would drop it.
As it stands now, the majority of the Taiwanese no longer consider themselves Chinese, but the PRC wants to keep that illusion alive for their annexation goals to seem justified. This is solely on the PRC.
Right and that’s why countries have pledged to defend China…from itself? Is that the argument you are wanting to make? The reason its not recognized by the Un is because China is a power player with veto rights. Its all stupid politics to not upset china
You do understand the history right? The US chose to back the KMT on Taiwan, sort of like if England had decided to back the Confederates if they hold up in Florida. Except the KMT on Taiwan never seceded. In fact, they organized a fascist dictatorship on the island and they imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to reunify with the mainland, and they also imprisoned and killed anyone who wanted to secede. The US was supporting them throughout the entire 4 decades of the White Terror wherein the government in Taiwan explicitly stated they were not a separate nation.
In fact, a bunch of Chinese people from Taiwan who fled to the US or Japan tried to build secessionary movements in exile and the KMT on Taiwan chased them down with spies and assassins to stop them.
Just because the US carries on the age old tradition of white European empires trying to pull pieces of China way from China doesn’t mean Taiwan isn’t part of China.
I do understand history, thanks. I mean, if you wanted to make the comparison, you got it backwards. And saying Taiwan imprisoned and killed a bunch of people for disagreeing seems to just be part of how China functions then, because mainland Taiwan has done the exact same thing lol.
The UN does not recognize Taiwan as a souvereign country, because China made that a requirement for them to participate in that institution.
It’s also because Taiwan does not claim to be a sovereign country.
I mean you could say the same about any country supporting Israel so almost all European countries. Yes its really fucking horrible that Germany supports Israel, but that doesnt make them as bad as Israel itself. Same with China here, they adhere to international law until they decide not to. But technically speaking im not even sure if supplying Russia with weapons and training even violates international law.
Still bloody horrible that European countries continue to support Israel, and it’s completely contrary to EU values and requirement of observing human rights.
At least most European countries are withdrawing support of Israel, and do not sell weapons to Israel anymore.Yeah i think most people on here will agree that both of these are morally unacceptable.
Absolutely, difference is that with Germany it is decidedly against the ideals of EU, and illegal by EU standards.
Now we need to realize that we are not following our own required standard, and we need to adjust so we do.China is not under any similar internal obligations.