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      I’d bet my life savings on it…

      P.S. Let’s be real. The way people received and processed info in the 1930s and 40s was completely different. I am somewhat sympathetic to the idea that a large percentage of German’s who supported Hitler didn’t have any idea what Hitler or the Nazi Party was really up to. No such excuse exists for the simpletons who couldn’t figure out who Trump and many other GOPedos really are between 2015 and 2024.

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        They didn’t care because all it takes is a threat to what little middle class people actually have for some fast talker to come in and tell them how he’ll protect that from the people (like him) that plan to take it. Oh, that and the threat of people who don’t speak the language the middle class speaks coming to take their jobs/children/money/daughters/religion/freedoms. Middle class people are fucking stupid and easily manipulated.

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      Election night 2016 was the Wizard of Oz curtain reveal moment for me.

      I knew stupid people existed, but that night made it clear how stupid and how many there were in this country.

      Terminal.

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        Same, went to a bar to watch the results as they came in, and I thought there was no way, right? He was just so obviously toxic, a con man, awful. But then it started looking like he was winning, then they called it.

        I don’t smoke, but I went outside to get some fresh air and bummed a cigarette. I just had no idea what to do, felt despondent. Now just look at us! :(

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      I don’t get why people even like Trump. His personality is so off putting. There is nothing likeable about him

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        There is a certain type of person who is convinced he’s honest. Yet, when you ask them an example of him being honest, it’s Trump being a total asshole to someone. They want to be able to get away with treating people like shit the way he does. And they want to be free of the politeness that governs society.

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        They are the same type of trash humans. They relate to trump because they are the same and believe that they should be wealthy and unaccountable. They are pro rape, pro pedophilia, pro racism, pro genocide, pro mysoginist, cuck losers. they believe in the colonialist heirachy that places white men(simply for existing) above the rest of the racialized and gender casted working class. They don’t understand that enforcing this system oppresses them too because they are not educated and that’s by design. They act as the enforcers, policing those who don’t conform to the system that benefits only the capitalist class. A lot of these toxic fascist right wing white males are handed six figure jobs right out of high school. These types of jobs are unionized and seem to hire their friends and family while gatekeeping and hazing minorities out. enter the police force, union construction, fire department, ice, prisons corrections ect… without a college degree and be making six figures, with retirement and full benefits almost immediately. These unions always seem to be the only unions not under constant attack. These jobs are dominated by white men who then think it’s easy to survive in this rigged game and listen to media funded by the capitalist class telling them to be good flying monkeys punch down because they’re the real victims. They love this system they’re getting poorer but they get to be sadistic, self righteous and superior to others Meanwhile any job dominated by women or minorities is underpaid and requires years of expensive schooling. This system is by design.

        Source: 20 years in construction, Dad was Cop

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        He’s a celebrity and these people have monkey brains that can’t differentiate between a close personal friend and someone eho appears frequently on their tv.

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      I disagree. The one thing he’s good at is conning people with his voice. It’s his superpower. It doesn’t work on everyone, it works on me sometimes. It’s hard to admit, but it’s true.

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        It’s a thing a lot of narcissists are good at. I’m curious how the numbers break down with people’s resistance to his voice vs general narcissists. I generally assume my immunity comes from my having had a narcissistic father and having bad mental reactions whenever someone starts the narcissist charm. Others are just immune, and then there’s folks like you who feel it but can resist it.

        And I should clarify it’s not magic or anything, the personality disorder just takes advantage of how our social brains are wired, it’s not even the only personality disorder to do that.

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          Honestly, I think the people who fall for him have emotional safety issues. He tries to soothe with his voice and say everything is going to be alright. He’ll lie his ass off in a general way, so you can give him a pass if it turns out wrong. I think that’s why a huge percentage of his base are alcoholics, they just want everything to be okay.

          I honestly crave not having to know this shit about our president who is/has:

          • taken us into a shitty, shitty war
          • killed middle school chidlren
          • robbing the country of our history and our money
          • treating immigrants like shit and sometimes killing them
          • treating US citizens like shit and sometimes killing them
          • installing people who are equally evil
          • fucking up our elections so he and his fellow republicans can cheat

          I’m tired boss

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            John Coffey could be the poster child for the last decade of US politics.

            Previous decades, too, it’s just accelerated now.

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              That’s a really good analogy. Him and Jesus, tbh. All religions base their savior on this archetype.

              Edit: The more I think about this, the more I understand it. He sows fear with fox news and harassing brown people, and then takes on the savior, Jesus mode in his speeches and rallies. He’s like the Old Testament god, follow the rules or bad things happen. But if you’re good, you’ll have riches and the kingdom will be yours.

              Edit 2, this is breaking my brain: Trump takes on the Jesus character, which is why he had no problem showing himself as Jesus. But underneath the surface, the Old Testament is playing out in all of it’s hate, carnage and glory. I can see his handlers saying, “Now remember, you’re Jesus. Be loving to your people and say nice things and be kind to them. You can hate on anyone else though, that’s fine. You don’t have to be like Jesus there.”

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          It’s not just the people who are fooled by him or beholden to him. I would say there is also something wrong with the people who are swayed by but also able to “resist” his sickening anti-charisma. Healthy people are completely immune. Even the people who supported him only until shortly after he was first took office in 2017 should be relegated to the category of “untrustworthy”.

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        Steve Jobs had a similar ability to manipulate. He used it to sell electronics. Trump uses it to bomb brown people, tank an economy, kill all progress, and drive up the costs of said electronics.

        It’s not a super power. It’s not even all that rare. It’s just mental illness being celebrated because he’s portrayed as rich. Rich people aren’t crazy. They’re colorful.

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        May i ask what works? Everytime i hear him talk i feel like i’m either listening to the dumbest person alive or to someone who loves himself more than i could ever love a person ever. And both are very off putting to me.

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    The worst part is this stupid asshole won’t acknowledge that everyone else is right and has been all along - it’s “You just happened to be right, but MY special conclusion now, happening now, is the only logical way to have concluded this.”

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    Just a thought.

    Maybe we shouldn’t trust our futures to dumbfucks that can get played by the most obvious conman in history 3 times back to back to back.

    Maybe every fucking person that isn’t a dumbfuck treasonous conservative should show up to vote in 26/28/forever. It’s pretty goddamn clear we can’t trust conservatives with our nation’s wellbeing.

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      It’s a shame there would be no enthusiasm for it from the left, but we’d do a lot of good by direnfranchiseing as many rural whites as possible.

      Say “We need to secure out elections, that’s why only major metropolitan centers can have polling location - so we can guarantee a secure and accurate count.”

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          You’re right if we started trying to disenfranchise republican voters, huge chunks of democratic voters would be disenfranchised in retaliation.

          Luckily we’re not fighting Republicans so our voters are safe and the voting rights act is stronger then ever. Yes, absolutely the thing I am most grateful for is how we have reframed from attacking republicans because black representation in the south is too precious to risk.

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    The problem is that each conservative mind has to personally experience the betrayal instead of having empathy and realizing it beforehand. This is why they want to destroy education, so they can more easily control us.

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    If moron Republicans were capable of learning the Republican party would have ceased to exist after Bush’s two illegal wars, torture and crashing the economy.

    Or Trump’s stealing, raping, crashing the economy and mismanagement of a pandemic and trying TO OVERTHROW THE FUCKING GOVERNMENT.

    These people do not learn, they are not serious and trying to “reach them” is a waste of time.

    I know in your liberal heart you want to BELIEVE they have learned now and suddenly won’t be massive racists assholes… Don’t fall for it again…

    Our efforts need to be on reaching people that DO NOT VOTE and have abandoned the system completely, we need to get to them that democracy is an active process and you need to engage to keep it going.

    I give ZERO shits and have ZERO compassion left for Trump voters.

    If they want back into society they need to actually DO SOMETHING about the mess they have caused, not just whine how now suddenly they are sorry…

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      Add to that over half a century of “Trickle Down Economics” being promised to trickle down to us ANY DAY NOW. It was a lie then, it’s a lie now, and Republicans are it up and everyone else said please no, and here we are still suffering under the impacts of those awful decisions. Hell, MOST of the inflation and low pay and wealth inequality and loss of retirement pensions and loss of nearly everything good we had is due to fucking Reagan and all the Republicans that voted for this.

      Also an entire history of disgusting racism and abuse of power.

      We would probably be in some amazing utopia right now we’re it not for Republicans.

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      If moron Republicans were capable of learning the Republican party would have ceased to exist after Bush

      So much of the Bush Era Republican Party is just infested into the Democrats now.

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      I give ZERO shits and have ZERO compassion left for Trump voters.

      This is why the last time I ever spoke to my mother was the day before his inauguration. At this point, it’s her fault that he causes harm.

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    OMG these fucking people.

    Great. Fuck You.

    Fuck you, you stupid idiot. Let us guess, now his bullshit is effecting you.

    I HOPE YOU SUFFER.

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    Am I wrong for simply not giving a shit?

    I don’t care if you feel manipulated by Trump. Manipulated by an establishment Democrat or Republican? Sure, I guess I can give people a pass for that. Trump, though?

    Nah, you can take your regret and carve it into a bullet before finding some cops to suicide on.

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    wow. some of you left wing extremists should have told him or something. jeez.

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    How Hitler and Trump were able to brainwash millions was a mixture of desperation and hatred. People were desperate for more money and better quality of life and these guys promised them those things. They also pushed a narrative that all the problems were caused by marginalized groups. People already hated those groups for some reason and were eager to believe these lies