In the aggregate, as many as 295,000 more people may have left the U.S. than immigrated there in 2025, according to one study
Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/americans-leaving-citizenship-emigration-trump-b2975395.html
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Would if I could.
You can probably find a job as an English teacher in East Asia
Not if I want to keep my kids.
Same. My wife wouldn’t come. She wants to stay.
Find a new wife. Fortunately there’s plenty abroad.
I’m quite fond of her and the kids though.
You can be fond of more than one
Stay frosty out there. Legal loopholes and policy exceptions abound. ☝🏼
americans are barely literate
Trust me when I say this, it’s not the illiterate ones looking to leave
I don’t want those here either
Where’s “here”, so I can avoid it?
The entired civilized world.
Go to your shitraeli genocider friends, your Syrian headchopper Jolani or those vassal emiratsGoteem
Same. Spouse and I have discussed it. Light research shows it being too expensive for us. Kids don’t want it either. Sigh.
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You should plan for the possibility that last part won’t be true for long. If these thieves in power stick around, they will drain every piece of money they can back into their own hands.
Amazing to assume Social Security will still be a thing…
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I’m left of left and I don’t expect there to be a USA in 20 years, let alone when we’re 70.
Ya’ll getting balkanised.
What?
Being pessimistic is now conservative? GTFOH
It’s math. Each new generation funds the previous one. If people are living longer and the birthrates are declining there wont be enough funds to replenish whats being taken out.
If we end up getting SS then great, but expecting it is not smart financial planning
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You may want to give yourselves an escape route before then. Things are likely to get dangerous before midterms. Once 2027 rolls around you may not be able to leave. At least, not legally and with all your stuff.
I really cannot imagine the Republicans losing power at this point. Not without an ammount of violence that cascades part of the power grid. People have been shouting coup for a year. Even if the dems won there’s AIPAC problem and Vance and Thiel waiting to get their dark enlightenment.
So yeah, run while you can. This is The Fall of Rome
pegged the outflow at around 150,000 people in 2025.
Before 2009, a typical year saw 200 to 400 people renounce their citizenship. By 2025, that figure was nearing 5,000, with more renunciations expected this year because fees to do so have dropped steeply.
Wut. Everything else I’ve read said the fees to expatriate are enormous. Both a percent of net worth and fixed fees.
anyone have more info on these fees “dropping steeply”?
Iirc the fee has been lowered from 2.5-4k down to maybe 500 USD.
Did the percent net worth get lowered too?
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Or if you didn’t file 5 years of tax returns - even if you’ve never lived or earned income in the US.
This caught an acquaintances of mine who was accidentally born in the US when their mother went into early labor. They found out about both the rule of the land and the exit tax when they were an adult when their application for citizenship in a different country was rejected for already being a dual citizen of the US.
Wow, another win for the pedo party. Over a quarter of a million less people to deport, imprison, and eventually kill.
Now it all makes sense: So the wall that orange Fuck wanted on the border with Mexico was meant to keep all the Americans inside, just like the Berlin Wall used to do between East Germany and West Germany.
Remember the Berlin Wall was more to keep people in, than the keep the west out.
Yes, that’s the point of my comment, albeit a joking one: The absurd wall that the orange pedo built can now serve the same purpose: keeping U.S. citizens trapped in the hellhole that the U.S. has become.
No. The camps are bad because he wants people to voluntarily deport themselves.
Rubio wants to shut down all of the Mexican consulates because of the CIA agent incident. It doesn’t even make sense.
I’m mid-application for moving down there.
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Brain gain
I want to sell my citizenship and think it is anti-capitalism (read: terrorists, apparently) that we cannot do so. The going rate was set at $1M by POTUS.
I wonder where they are going to since it is famous that only the Americas really accept immigrants.
I think this map is a little dishonest and should be titled “What Offers Citzenship From Birth - Land or Blood?” I live in a country where I can absolutely naturalize after 5 years. I was not born here and my parents are not from here. This is true of many countries if you make the effort to get a work visa and show you want to be part of their society/culture.
Well… not every southamerican country is in the verge of self destruction. Uruguay is okeish, chile and brazil also…
Canada can take them too
Sounds like everyone is happy, America wants to deport them they want to leave.
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You could read the article to find out. The link is right there at the top of the page.
Where?
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my bad ☝🏼😶
First blue text from the top
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Like the rest of the world want’s them. So first you do nothing about your dead country, and you immigrate in another country.
Like WW2 people fleeing Europe, same with USA now.My Jewish family fled Europe during the pogroms of Russia.
Their family that stayed died in the camps. Fuck you.
The rest of the world has an obligation to accept refuges and use international pressure against other States that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
I didn’t say anything about Jewish people, I don’t understand how I did offend you. Have a nice day!
Like WW2 people fleeing Europe
You seriously didn’t consider that Jews comprised most of this group? Regardless, blaming refugees for their authoritarian government is super fucked up. You know that more people than live in most European counties voted AGAINST the Trump regime, right?
Even in the US, Trump had only like 30% of the vote.
The US is not a democracy.
