I don’t see this as shaming so much as calling out a shared experience every vegan has had (it’s a vegan community after all).
Kind of like the “the only ethical abortion is my abortion” crowd, any discussion of the benefits of eating less meat gets flooded with the “but the beef I buy is super unique and ethical”, which is never true on so many levels.
The answer is always eat less meat, but people come up with so many excuses not to that it becomes memeable in the community.
If this is shaming anybody it’s not the folks trying to eat less meat, but the ones coming up with every excuse possible to not change.
I have been eating a lot less meat than I used to and far less than all meat eating people I know, and I find it a bit shaming. It seems pretty dismissive of people who are trying, potentially misguidedly maybe, but trying to do something better and it’s getting disregarded as no different than any other choice. The implication is that unless you’re vegan, any concern you have is irrelevant because you’re super selfish and like the taste of flesh. But in reality it’s an unproductive thought process and it’s insanely reductive.
The comic addresses people that are making flimsy excuses about not wanting to reduce their meat consumption despite their environmentalist ideals. From your comment, you don’t sound like that describes you. Why do you feel shamed? It’s not directed at you.
I didn’t say I feel shamed. I am saying it seems intended to shame, the target being a group of people you just named. Shame isn’t the best motivator, particularly when it’s dismissive of people who have considered facts and tried making some improvement. I personally don’t care enough about where my meat comes from so if I did what these people getting shamed were doing, it would be an improvement just like if they reduced their intake like I have, it would be an improvement for them. My improvement probably matters more than theirs but I’m not trying to shit on theirs.
I don’t see this as shaming so much as calling out a shared experience every vegan has had (it’s a vegan community after all).
Kind of like the “the only ethical abortion is my abortion” crowd, any discussion of the benefits of eating less meat gets flooded with the “but the beef I buy is super unique and ethical”, which is never true on so many levels.
The answer is always eat less meat, but people come up with so many excuses not to that it becomes memeable in the community.
If this is shaming anybody it’s not the folks trying to eat less meat, but the ones coming up with every excuse possible to not change.
I have been eating a lot less meat than I used to and far less than all meat eating people I know, and I find it a bit shaming. It seems pretty dismissive of people who are trying, potentially misguidedly maybe, but trying to do something better and it’s getting disregarded as no different than any other choice. The implication is that unless you’re vegan, any concern you have is irrelevant because you’re super selfish and like the taste of flesh. But in reality it’s an unproductive thought process and it’s insanely reductive.
I’m glad you’re reducing, man.
The comic addresses people that are making flimsy excuses about not wanting to reduce their meat consumption despite their environmentalist ideals. From your comment, you don’t sound like that describes you. Why do you feel shamed? It’s not directed at you.
I didn’t say I feel shamed. I am saying it seems intended to shame, the target being a group of people you just named. Shame isn’t the best motivator, particularly when it’s dismissive of people who have considered facts and tried making some improvement. I personally don’t care enough about where my meat comes from so if I did what these people getting shamed were doing, it would be an improvement just like if they reduced their intake like I have, it would be an improvement for them. My improvement probably matters more than theirs but I’m not trying to shit on theirs.
Yes, it’s intended to shame hypocrites
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