US Rep Kristen McDonald Rivet called Democratic convention behavior “deeply troubling,” condemned antisemitism and booing of pro-Israel candidates
Democracy is when you’re not allowed to criticize politicians
yea just keep combining antisemitism and being anti-Israel, this will definitely not just make people go: “Well, I guess I’m antisemitic then.”
If you repeat that enough times eventually people are going to believe you.
Over and above turning people actually antisemitic it also gives Israel exactly what it wants.
Booing me is antisemitism
My theory is that Democrats want nothing more than to be the Republican party. Openly corrupt, fucking kids with total impunity and a voter base of absolute cattle who ask nothing whatsoever of them as long as they say “trans people bad”.
The Dems see that and they look at their own voters, who actually expect the bare minimum of a moral standard, and feel upset. That’s why they scold them so frequently. They feel like they’re already slightly less depraved than their Republican colleagues and the voters still get mad? How entitled!
Neither party has ever believed in their own rhetoric. It has always been an intentionally curated aesthetic, designed to capture the most votes. Of course with the requisite bourgeois class consciousness so that, even as each party opposes its rhetoric against the other, they overlap on some key attitudes e.g. imperialism.
What upsets the Democrats is not that they are jealous of the Republicans, but that the Republicans broke the rules of the game, the rules that bounded partisan rhetoric. The Democrats have to react or be shut out of power for decades, but they aren’t sure how. Trump had a major first-move advantage because the hypocrisy of the Democrats was always obvious to the party elites, so all he had to do was call it out:
”The Democrats say they care about the working class, but the working class conditions are worse than ever even with Democrat leadership. The Democrats say that they are for all Americans, but they openly despise you, a poor rural American, and favor the wealthy urban financial elite. The Democrats say that they are the open-tent party and yet openly shut out popular outsiders like Bernie Sanders.”
There is nothing the Democrats can do to effectively counter that, because it’s fucking true. At most, they can point the finger back at the Republicans, and bring up Republican hypocrisy; but “no u” looks petty in comparison.
In the face of these challenges, the Democratic Party faces an identity crisis which is a knot, an impossible knot that can only be cut open. This cutting-open means a complete brand shift for the party. What it ought to shift toward, within the logic of American electoralism, is obviously social democracy. This is what the Sanders movement proved. But the party financial backers have decided that when it is a choice between social democracy and open fascism, when Trump has proved that open fascism is acceptable for enough of the population to win elections — these financial backers will choose open fascism. The backers don’t care about the Democratic Party as such, because it was only a means to an end, an end which they already won.
I disagree with your first statement (the rest is fine). I think the Republican politicians didn’t believe their own lies for the longest time. Then we got the Tea Party and I firmly believe that among them were a ton of true believers. I think since, there are a bunch of true believers among the Republican politicians, though not really the leadership. In a way, the true believers are even more troubling.
What’s worse? A guy who doesn’t actually believe that immigrants are criminals but cynically pushes it to get votes which he converts into ways to enrich himself and his megadonors? Or the guy who fully believes that immigrants should be shoved into ovens and maybe tries to make a buck on the side? On the surface they both seem the same because realistically you would find similar outcomes to the policies each push but I think fundamentally they are different and the latter is much more dangerous than the former. A morally compromised self interested cynic can be reasoned with and might pull back when the horrors they enact on others becomes too great. A complete monster cannot be reasoned with for the worst horrors they could enact are truly what they desire.
I think we agree. In my first statement I had in mind the party elite, the kingmakers who are actually in charge of the party direction and of the nobodies from small districts who they hand-pick for a larger national presence. We have already seen how small are the Marjorie Taylor Greens, how easily they are elevated then discarded. They are basically pawns. So are virtually all US politicians. Many of the 435 representatives in the House are on the same political level as the weather person on the local news. True-believers may be as loud as they would like, as long as they don’t tug on the leash.
these people are so predictably fucking awful
I don’t know how many times we need to keep saying that a public SERVANT doesn’t tell you what to do. If we collectively want to do something very silly then it’s not a servant’s job to tell me no. If we want to divert all military spending to silly straw creation then your job is not to tell me about all the good things that military spending does. A servant is supposed to carry out my will or get out of the way for someone who more closely represents and is effectual at that thing that I want.
In other words, WHAT THE FUCK DO I CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT MY BEHAVIOR? YOU ANSWER TO ME NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU IMBECIL!
Noting that she’s the only Michigan Democrat to win a Trump-won congressional district in 2024, McDonald Rivet said such tactics and decisions could hurt her party’s chances to win back power in the fall midterm elections.
ass tactics. Your goal is to get the pro-Israel purple voters? The ones that totally exist? At the expense of anyone who wants tomorrow to be worth sticking around for?I’m at the point where I think just dealing with the fascists now is a better plan than kicking the fascist can down the line until we have two fascist parties and no where to turn at all.
Democrats need to lose. Badly. We need to scare them like the tea party scared conservatives.
First past the post dictates that we have to form a people’s party that can crush the democrats in all areas and effectively delete them from American political life.
The republican party is democratic enough to morph into whatever, the DNC is rigged by design via super delegates and such. There’s no reforming it unless the top brass consent.
So what, the AIPAC check cleared for the month or …?
do you want trump to win!?
Unironically what most liberal/Democrat politicians want.
That neoliberal Contrapoints bit when she says “they dont want power they just want to criticize”? its projection
better for fundraising
