Lol drink if you like but indisputably it’s one of the most physically harmful recreational drugs in common use. Kinda weird to promote it
Tell us you didn’t watch the video without telling us. It addresses this exact point, one of the most common ojectsions in our culture.
It’s an hour long II skimmed bits. Not spending a quarter of by recreational time on it.
Nothing I saw addresses how crippling damaging it can be, nor how addictive (acts on mu opiod receptors iirc). There’s a case for altered states of consciousness but alcohol is super bad. It’s like recommending opium for the community aspect.
He does go into that, especially about how in indigenous communities they seem to lack some kind of resistance to alcohol. Fun fact: it actually takes a while to get addicted to opium. Months of steady usage.
You also have to have some kind of special receptor to get euphoria from it, which I lack. I just took two (legally prescribed) oxycontin yesterday and didn’t get much. They definitely had an affect but not like a couple of bong hits, which I would have preferred frankly.Fun fact: it actually takes a while to get addicted to opium
You also have to have some kind of special receptor to get euphoria from it, which I lack.
You should probably stop spreading misinformation. No drugs cause immediate physical dependence but every dose changes your body and causes reenforcement learning. It doesn’t really make sense to try and find the dose that gets you addicted, it it when you get crippling withdrawls? Or you know all the doses that lead up to that.
Opium is a crude extract (the latex of papaver somniferum, aka breadseed poppy) containing many alkaloids but the primary one that causes pleasure is morphine. Morphine interacts with the mu opiod receptor, activating it. It’s possible you might lack it but I am not sure you would work properly, it’s very fundamental and regulates so many low level processes (hence why you can stop breathing or get lethally constipated). If you lack it, almost nobody else does.
Thank you for pushing back on this.
My brother is opioid resistant and has constant back pain. What he really needs is fentanyl but can’t get it due to widespread abuse. Same reason you can’t get Ambien after Tiger Woods took it and drove his Rolls-Royce into a ditch. The cops found him sound asleep with the engine running.
Resistance is a real thing, but that’s not lacking the receptor. It can be caused by loads of shit from small mutations reducing binding affinity, metabolic differences decreasing halflife, or weird brain shit that reduces the analgesia because you just process pain differently.
If I wanted AI slop I’d ask myself, you don’t have to copy-paste. Humans only.
As to why you didn’t feel a lot of euphoria, the dose you took was clinical no? When opiates are used clinically doses are typically not aiming to produce euphoria. Many preparations are also slow release.
Euphoria response is highly influences by rate of change of concentration and hence ROI with smoking often being the most (fastest ROI, ~ 5 seconds. Also the most addictive because reenforcement learning is time based) and IV being next. When I was shot up with morphine in hospital as a naive user I burst out laughing as it took effect.
Conversely when I have used opium tea to treat severe nerve pain (I don’t advocate this in general) at therapeutic doses and oral ROI I would describe the feeling as powerful analgesia, a strong anxiolytic effect, and a warm feeling of relaxation akin to that after intense exercise (same mechanism) but prolonged.
Can’t watch the whole thing right now but I disagree with what I saw.
If we want to talk about ancient Eastern philosophy, the fifth precept in Buddhism specifically advises against intoxicating drinks and drugs. While plenty of Buddhists deviate from that in practice, I think they got it right as a general advisory.
People really love the idea of having a “shortcut” or “hack” to reaching a particular state of consciousness, but that kind of defeats the point. It’s cliche, but the journey is more important than the destination. Real personal development is not about reaching some special state of consciousness, it’s more about reflecting and being able to face yourself in the mirror, “warts and all,” and face your demons without turning away.
I drink alcohol sometimes. I happen to be a happy drunk, who can keep it in moderation. But it rubs me wrong when people try to promote some substance as a path to “enlightenment” or “spiritual fulfillment” or whatever. Like, do drugs, drink alcohol, whatever, have fun, but if you’re just having fun, be honest with yourself about that. Not everything you do has to have a moral component, and trying to add that to an activity reads as insecurity to me, and it’s better to face that insecurity rather than rationalizing it away. Like, I play video games, but you don’t see me trying to assign some kind of moral virtue to it.
Promoting alcohol as this “path to enlightenment” is also problematic because alcohol addiction is a real, observable thing. Is it worth causing harm to people who do have issues with it by promoting it? “Screw alcoholics, I need to reach an enlightenment!” is not how anything works.
Did you even watch thevideo? It tidn’t talk about spiritual enlightenment.
It touched on it briefly when it mentioned in the pre-columbian Americas they had alcohol brewed wtih hallucinogens.What did I say? “Can’t watch the whole thing right now…”
If it’s just “people used to drink alcohol,” people used to do lots of things, that doesn’t mean much.
I didn’t say that, but you’ll never know. Maybe look at the AI summary on Youtube’s page?
Or ask it questions, specifically this one, about the video? There is a button for that. Or just paste the URL into the Ai of your choice and ask it questions about the video.They slurp youtube auto-transcriptions.
I’ve never intentionally asked a LLM anything and i don’t plan to start
You should.
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Ok, I don’t understand what use or value that output has. Especially considering the environmental impact of LLM training and datacenters.
This user just accused me of slopping lmao. I think they’re just feeling a bit wound up because their post was received badly
Alcohol as a “shortcut” to a relaxed mindset, referencing a Daoist analogy
I remember a similar analogy. A drunk person having a supple body that can’t be harmed, I think a basically similar idea goes into drunken boxing.
Okay, next question, why is China so old? What if China was Christian? Tell me about Chinese Hobbes?
This is so odd. Kindof an interesting diversion, but the topic is alcohol and only the first question had any real link. Ask about baijiu! Also the completely neutral mention of Falun Gong and religion in modern China makes it clear that he’s not going to say anything interesting on that front, which is… probably wise of him.
So when was alcohol discovered.
Aah! That came out of the blue.
That’s enough commentary from me.
Uck. Baijiu is horrible stuff. If you’ve ever wondered what that oily, acidic unpleasant Victory Gin from 1984 was like, baijiu (especially the cheap stuff, not the Maotai t that Mao drank with Nixon is the world’s closest approximation.
There’s good baijiu it’s just expensive
I’ve had Maotai, the best. Plenty of it. It’s vile, but there are worse ones. They used to sell ergoutou in sports bottles. They had to stop because too many construction workers were staying drunk on the job all day long.
I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Is this supposed to link to something?
Yeah I’d like to know. I want to see the smug article that explains to me why me when I was in active addiction almost died from drinking was good and also my mom who drank herself to death was living her best life.
Amen to that. I can only assume that most pro-alcohol articles and videos are alcohol industry propaganda like the fact that every damn tv show everyone inexplicably has a liquor cabinet and always offers someone a drink when they come over for casual conversation.
I swear, this site. Why is there a “thumbnail URL” field separately? When is that ever used?
I use thumbnail url when posting video links because well, otherwise it doesn’t show a thumbnail for the video. You can copy the image from the YouTube thumbnail, upload it as a hexbear image, and use that url
Do they really need thumbnails? It’s just going to be the first screen of the video anyway. I tried uploading a separate thumbnail once and clicking on the link from the front page took you to the fullsize .jpg instead of the video link.
It greatly increases engagement if you want anyone to view your post
It doesn’t work. It just takes anyone who clicks onto the post on a big graphic instead of to the video.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
