That’s fucking bullshit, i thought the whole point of self driving cars was that tjey would be safer than human drivers, not more efficiently dangerous.
To be fair, they probably are safer. Even if they cross into a bike lane, sensor reaction time is far superior to any human. At least a couple of times now I’ve heard ties squealing behind me in a protected bus/bike line from cunts aggressively changing lane into it to get around traffic and only spotting my bike at the last second. I would feel much safer if 100% of cars on the road with me were controlled by software and not meatware.
Yeah but that didn’t mean these are safe. It’s just means humans are dangerous.
I’d rather be killed by a human than surrender my freedom to ai.
just not getting killed via transportation would be nice. Cars are dangerous, regardless of if they are controlled by meatware or machines.
Okay but the software in this case is clearly dangerous. They need to not park in bike lanes that just shouldn’t even be a question.
expecting driverless taxis to obey the law “too high a bar”
Okay, so they are not road worthy then and must be prohibited from driving. It is that simple, or at least, it should be. I’m sure google will at least try to grease the gears of justice with some well placed bribes.
On that note, if I get cut off by a fucking waymo, I will fucking trash it.
Okay, so they are not road worthy then and must be prohibited from driving. It is that simple, or at least, it should be.
This is one of the reasons they only operate in a few places. Lots of jurisdictions would be more than happy to ticket and impound these cars when they fail to follow the law. Lots of revenue generation!
Exactly, it had better fukin kill me, or I am 1000% totalling that taxi
good thinking, I should carry at least a hammer with me, for repairs and loose nails . . . . never know!
A very small shard of ceramic (such as from a cracked spark plug) will easily shatter glass if thrown.
Expecting me to respect driverless taxis too high a bar.
I guess nobody in the car will stop you from slashing its tyres
Someone slashes your tires
Cops: 😴
You slash a driverless taxis tires
Cops: 🚓🚓🚓
Hard to insure what’s always on fire.
If the driverless taxi could call the cops, imagine how many false positives there would be.
Nobody is going to come to help driverless taxis
Oh, your car can’t follow the law? Then it isn’t allowed on the road.
Oh, your car broke the law? Owner of the car is liable.
Oh, your car is avoiding being pulled over? Owner of the car is liable.
Oh, it’s owned by a company not a person? Owner of the company is liable.
It’s a fleet car that will never have a driver, put everything on the CEO. And if there isn’t a CEO, pick a random person from the company. And if there ends up not being people at the company, the government now owns them and can do whatever they want with them. And if the government owns a fleet of something that’s dangerous to the public and doesn’t do anything about it, well then the people have a right to ownership.
If there is no liability, then nobody owns it and it’s up for grabs. Autonomous cars aren’t fucking dragonflies.
Sound like the vehicles are not safe enough for use on public roads.
Take them off the road, till they can clear the bar, then.
Right? I don’t get to skip traffic rules because it’s too hard.
Believed life in danger so destroyed the car. Not guilty.
Time to start vandalizing waymo autonomous cars.
bike lanes are more obvious than lane markers. this seems nuts.
it depends a lot in the city. many cities do the absolute minimum and barely just add paint on the side.
You know I had not thought about that. I actually live in a town that does the minimum. While the city has great infratstructure it had signs that said this is a bike route. Recently they got their first lanes and its on the dumbest of streets that only exists for a span and does not get to a boarder. So frustrating as there is a very obvious street to get lanes on. I hope to get them to do that street.
seems nuts, but then again, we’re talking about cars that drive themselves, Waymo wants more of these on the roads. A cyclist is a lost customer, so they might as well kill them, yeah?
that is dark. then again there seems to be no low that is impossible now a days.
Seeing how much death is caused as a direct consequence of organized hostility to groups outside of the ruling class is sadly a reality that, as low as it is, can’t be ignored.
There’s evidence about the double standard applied cars as well:
as study author and environmental psychologist Ian Walker succinctly put it on Twitter, showed that “‘Car Brain’ — the cultural blind spot that makes people apply double standards when they think about driving — is real, measurable and pervasive.”
teh car brain is definately something I don’t get. I have to drive sometimes and absolutely loathe it. I don’t get how blithe people are about the most commonly dangerous thing that is so pervasive in our lives. I wish so much I could live in the city center and that they would make it car free.
But annotation will take a loooong time and so much effort. It’ll delay making money while they could just roll the dice and injure a few cyclists
If I run a toy RC car into the road and start wreaking havoc, it’s a hazard. If they turn a full sized automobile into an RC car, it’s innovation!
Cities should give up some car parking spots, and make them drop-off/pick-up taxi spots.
I don’t know about other places, but this has been happening here in Seattle.
Great idea centralizing the drop of stops and doing that every 200m or so in a grid, especially at places of interest. Now you could make the self driving cars a little bigger so they carry more people. You could even connect several cars. At that point you can basically add a safety driver back in, with 20 ride sharers its still 95% self driving (compare that to Waymos that have uncertified safety drivers remoting from the Phillipines for 20% of the time). Run them on a predictable, frequent schedule, so you dont need an app to call them.
Finally make them drive in a separate lane, on iron tracks and make them draw their energy from an overhead wire for maximum efficiency.
I think cities need many modes of transit. Starting with rail, moving to buses, bicycles and taxi cabs as well.
I’d like to see trams, with flat boarding platforms, being used to move more cargo. No reason someone with a dolly, and 8 boxes on it, can’t use public transit. This would cut the cost of hauling things around. I can imagine farmers transporting things to neighborhood farmers markets using some form of train/tram combo.
