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      Couldn’t bother to read the first paragraph.

      It reflects the crude, short-sighted, and depraved nature of those who govern us—a group of war criminals, billionaires, and pedophiles. It is the Epstein class’s war.

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        Ok.

        [From the article]

        He wanted to divert attention from the Epstein scandal and secure a quick victory to restore his tarnished reputation

        This is incorrect, the Americans want to control key areas in the middle east with natural resources to keep their position within the economies of the world. Trump himself states this quite openly, in different contexts too. See Venezuela.

        But like a compulsive gambler who keeps losing and has reached the point of betting his house and car, thinking that the next hand will let him recoup his losses, Trump is doubling down and preparing to escalate the war

        This implies that Trump is the entity making decisions. Wholly incorrect as well as it ignores geopolitical advisers with connections to the arms industry and pressure from oil companies.

        Already, the crisis in public education funding is giving rise to a student movement the likes of which have rarely been seen in English-speaking Canada. Walkouts have taken place at a number of universities and high schools in Ontario, and there have even been student strikes in Nova Scotia and at the University of Waterloo in Ontario.

        Not a worker’s movement, those are students who don’t go to school. This doesn’t really tell us anything interesting about the class antagonism.

        A similar leadership crisis is also plaguing the labour movement. The struggle of Air Canada flight attendants is emblematic of this crisis. Rather than capitalizing on the immense mobilization and fighting spirit of its members to carry the struggle through to victory, the union leadership called off the strike and deferred the decision to an arbitrator, who imposed a contract that did not meet the members’ demands.

        This is the best the article has to offer. A tiny blip within class struggle, not a general strike or any other sort of action that could be deemed disruptive to the functioning of the economy. Honestly, it’s beautiful that there is this specific instance of workers trying to get something at all, but as mentioned this is nothing particularly significant when looking at the last 50 years or so.

        The article seems to culminate in what appears to be an ad for the RCP. The RCP posits itself as the alternative to those goddamn malfunctioning unions, as the viable representative of workers when put into relation to all other expressions of worker-self-action

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          This is a much better argument, and I don’t disagree. I think the article is tailored to it’s audience.

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      Some people actually studied class, not of Marx’s theory, but of the actual-classes-that-exist…

      https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/class-paul-fussell/1111206189?ean=9780671792251

      That’s the basis understanding, for North America’s class-system.

      It turns out that the Financial-class is a thing, above Upper-Middle Class…

      it turns out that there is an entire Academic Class System, an entire Medical Class System, a Gov’t Class System, etc…

      The fundamental-class-system is bedrock,

      but within the Middle Class, there is a class-system that others aren’t in.

      Within the upper-class, there is a class-system that the others aren’t in.

      Same with working-class,

      same with underclass.

      Pretending that they aren’t real, that they don’t control & confine lives within their systems, when one hasn’t even read Fussell’s work, let-alone spent a few years seeing with knowledge-boosted eyes, … is itself a kind of “class” behavior, though…

      The class of ideology-already-knows-therefore-evidence-can’t-contradict.

      Sorry to be blunt, but people can do better than to hold to “nothing exists unless I already know about it” paradigm.

      Please consider understanding Fussell’s book. He’s written a number of significant books…

      That one is sooo significant, that Steven Pinker mentioned its influence in one of his.

      Pinker’s upper-middle-class, within the academic-class system, & utterly blind to how economic-warfare is an actual thing.

      His privilege blinds him.

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        Why the heck call it the Epstein class? Why fetishize this person? Why not simply call it the capital owning class?

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          Because it’s effective. Marxist jargon will bounce off of non-Marxists, but if you say “Epstein class”, everyone knows exactly what you’re talking about - billionaire pedophiles who operate with complete impunity. It isn’t a proper scientific definition, but it gets the point across and is largely accurate.

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          Because it’s easier than saying “the class of people who are rich enough to rape and murder and eat babies and get away with it”

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            What? I am sorry, they did not get away with it, why else would you have news cycle upon news cycle dedicated to the case?

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              Are they in prison? No. They got away with it. Why are you Epstein class apologist?

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                Who the fuck am I apologizing for. Where did I say “umm ackchually epstein wasn’t as bad”. I am saying that framing the whole thing around epstein, even when just using him as a foot in the door, does nothing but further the magical thinking around epstein being some sort of ultra-cunning puppetmaster, which he wasn’t.

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              I don’t think anything Epsein et al were doing has stopped, unfortunately.

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                  I understand what you’re saying, but especially on this side of the Atlantic it feels like there haven’t been any consequences for most of his coconspirators and nothing has been done to prevent it from happening.

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          Because it highlights the depravity of the ruling class. It reminds people that we are ruled by literal rapists and pedophiles who operate completely outside the rule of law. This is a critical point to hammer for people who still have the delusion that western liberal system is some sort of a functioning democracy.

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            Dividing the ruling class into “Depraved listed in the Epstein files” class and the “Morally correct capitalists not listed in the Epstein files” does not help class conciseness.

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            I don’t think the “depravity” needs to be highlighted. Workers know the depravity they’re forced into by heart.

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              Yeah, that’s just not true. Plenty of the people in RL I talk to still simp for the system and the capitalist class. They are yet to grow any class consciousness whatsoever. The Epstein class moniker emerged organically somewhere over the last little while and it works great as a little tool to elevate people’s cosciousness a wee bit. Many “just get it” without further explanation. A Marxist shouldn’t waste the tools thrown at her just because they don’t neatly fit the theory.

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              You might, but majority of people in Canada are firmly in the liberal mainstream. I see zero harm in highlighting that the system is completely lawless myself.

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    Another cheap propaganda bs from the resident tankie troll.

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        The expected reaction. You and your sockpuppet-like accounts use this community as a dumping ground for authoritarian propaganda while attempting to insult all others in an extraordinarily primitive way.