• Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Actual worker organizing (that transcends the confines set by labor law and the big unions) driven by the left organizations is the only thing that will build a working class that can learn how to fight. Why would we think workers will seriously confront capital and the state when they won’t even confront their boss? Performative International Workers Day “strikes” will not achieve this, only actual organizing.

  • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    I think thats already organically happening. Billionaires increasingly public and vulgar displays of wealth and stupidity. Certain people and industries being openly exempt from the law, such as copyright law being enforced on behalf of AI companies but never against them. Nepo baby discourse reveals the modern wealthy as the aristocracy that they are. Plus I think people are just growing bored of the culture war, and are reverting back to the faintly flickering embers of class consciousness that were developing around the end of Obama’s first term but before the Tea Party.

    • bunnossin [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      Plus I think people are just growing bored of the culture war, and are reverting back to the faintly flickering embers of class consciousness that were developing around the end of Obama’s first term but before the Tea Party.

      Hopefully they don’t think of something new to drag us all back into pointless infighting about

  • EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml
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    You don’t, liberals backing No Kings have no interest in getting rid of billionaires, but taxing them. So the exploitation continues, but now with added taxes. And the billionaire oligarchy coordinating no Kings won’t allow that message to happen, in the same way theyve stopped the defund police demands, abolish ice demands.

  • CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    IMO “No Kings” doesn’t have a problem with actual kings (like, say, King Charles from the UK). It’s the billionaires who are trying to act as kings.

    I don’t speak for the movement though, but it seems like “no billionaires” is kind of the point, of them and 50501.

    • roux [they/them, xe/xem]@hexbear.net
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      50501 and No Kings is an explicitly anti-Trump movement without the correct optics of the actual problem being capitalism.

      If Kamala won instead of Trump, 50501 wouldn’t even be a thing.

    • HamManBad [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      I think the most direct purpose of the movement is about Trump specifically, and opposing his moves to give himself power beyond what has been traditionally allowed for presidents. There are lots of pro-capitalism libs who support no kings. However, there are strong internal currents that expand the scope to include billionaires as a class, and it is definitely a movement that includes many socialists even if it is not a “socialist movement”, if that makes sense. And that faction would definitely be against all Kings, including Charles, in addition to Trump and the billionaires.