Europe has survived 3 energy shocks in 4 years. The only way out is to stop buying power from its enemies | Fortune
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Oil above $100. Gas prices up 70%. Every crisis has a different trigger—and the same vulnerability. Europe must become the world's first Electro-Continent.
  • randomnameEnglish
    63·
    6 days ago

    Yes, don’t buy from Russia, the U.S., and China. It wouldn’t make sense to replace dependence on fossil fuels by dependence on renewable technology from the regime in Beijing. The is often forgotten imo.

    • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
      162·
      6 days ago

      Still way better to depend on someone for renewables rather than fuel. This way, the already installed capacity will keep on working.

      China also doesn’t seem to be the conflict type. You want solar? You’ll get solar.

      • randomnameEnglish
        86·
        6 days ago

        What an absurdly weird comment. You want oil? You get oil.

        China is not only a decisive supporter of Russia in its war against Ukraine, it’s been bullying practically all its neighbours in Asia. Beijing’s envoys have openly threatened foreign government officials (as Japan’s PM) and other countries’ populations (Japan, Australia), and threatening Taiwan. A Chinese envoy in Europe claimed that former Soviet-states (like Ukraine, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and all others) have ‘no effective status’ in international law. And this is just a TINY sample of what China stands for.

        Saying it’s not a ‘conflict type’ is absurd. China isn’t a reliable partner, and it doesn’t get better because the U.S. gets worse.

        • encelado748@feddit.orgEnglish
          6·
          6 days ago

          china may not be a reliable partner, but what was said is true. Solar is not fuel. There is zero fuel cost involved. Once it is installed it is there until you need to replace the panels, decades in the future. Same with batteries. And arguably the same with nuclear, given the low amount of uranium and the refueling cycle every 2 years.

        • Sl00k@programming.devEnglish
          4·
          6 days ago

          We’re comparing bullying to actively commiting war crimes. Those are leagues apart. There’s nuance to these conversations. One buy it and forget it while you prop up manufacturing is infinitely better than being dependent on war criminals.

        • Allero@lemmy.todayEnglish
          2·
          6 days ago

          I meant that from the position of energy security. Sure, China doesn’t always play nice politically, and there could be reasons to avoid Chinese imports. However, China is not particularly known for sanctioning its trading partners, so you can be reasonably sure that the supply will be there.

    • Caveman@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      5 days ago

      I mean, you buy a solar panel once and get energy for decades. It’s a bit of a different dynamic.