Looking forward to coming back in a bit and reading some of the lib-outs in the comment section.
There’s already one.
lol
That sure didn’t take long.
i sometimes wonder if i sounded like them before i discovered lemmy.
Watering my libs
inb4 but muh bourne supremacy
I hope the penalties for cop corruption in China are the same as the ones for politicians.
- In a typical example of proletarian police accountability, the CPC sentences a police officer to death for killing a pregnant woman in a restaurant in southern China.
- Why do Chinese billionaires keep ending up in prison? Why are many billionaires and CEOs going missing? China sentences Ex-Chairman of a major bank, guilty of embezzling ~$100M USD, to death in 2019.
All cops are bad actually.
Cops exist to protect the ruling class of a given society. In the west, that class is the capitalist class. In socialism, that class is the working classes. Until we get to classless society, police in socialism serve a necessary role that must be accountable to the people.
The ruling class in China is not the working class.
Public ownership is the principal aspect of China’s economy, and capitalists are held on a tight leash to focus on developing the productive forces. The large firms and key industries in China are publicly owned, it’s only the small and medium firms that are private.
The form of democracy and the mode of production in China ensures that there is a connection between the people and the state. Policies like the mass line are in place to ensure this direct connection remains. This is why over 90% of the Chinese population supports the government, and why they have such strong perceptions around democracy:
The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.
I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.
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Oh you like China? How does it feel to like [thing that is a problem in capitalist countries but largely doesn’t happen in China], commie
- I am here to serve and protect the elite
- I kill blacks to serve the elite
Is the same picture
In both cases, what you meant is the ruling class. Thankfully, the ruling class in china is the working class.
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Public ownership is the principal aspect of China’s economy, and capitalists are held on a tight leash to focus on developing the productive forces. The large firms and key industries in China are publicly owned, it’s only the small and medium firms that are private.
The form of democracy and the mode of production in China ensures that there is a connection between the people and the state. Policies like the mass line are in place to ensure this direct connection remains. This is why over 90% of the Chinese population supports the government, and why they have such strong perceptions around democracy:
The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.
I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.
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incredible. using the arrest of two canadian spies (yes, we know they’re spies, otherwise the canadian govt would never have paid them millions in a settlement when they got back to canada) as proof that chinese police are monsters.
maybe dont do spying?
not to mention that china arrested these two spies in response to canada arresting a chinese business person for no reason except that the US asked them to.
incredible. using the arrest of two canadian spies (yes, we know they’re spies, otherwise the canadian govt would never have paid them millions in a settlement when they got back to canada) as proof that chinese police are monsters.
On top of that using the Hong Kong the riots where rioters decided to kill and maim their police and then demanded not to be prosecuted because they wanted complete immunity for their vandalism as they wanted to spite their government for a law introduced to jail a murderer of a young Taiwanese woman because the ugly young man couldn’t handle a breakup. Not because they thought the murderer was innocent, but because they despised the fact that the vast majority of today’s immigrants from mainland China that arrive in Hong Kong do not see them themselves as refugees like a generation before, but as equals or more in touch with their homeland than the isolated Anglo-Americanized Hong Kongers who saw themselves as elevated above the rest of China and a lot of these newcomers started to work as government officials like the police or railway, which is why they also kept setting metro stations on fire.
Hello CIA sleeper agent
Shit, you blew my cover!!! Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck what am I going to do with my life 😭😭😭
Using Wikipedia and Amnesty as source for China’s oppression
You are a living caricature my dude.
What is wrong with using Wikipedia and Amnesty as a source?
Both of them are liberal propaganda outlets. ProleWiki has some good sources on them.
Isn’t ProleWiki explicitly ideological wiki aligned with Marxist-Leninist / pro-socialist perspectives? Moreover, Amnesty International has reported on alleged human-rights abuses by many different governments, including Western countries as well as China.
You are free to check AI and Wikipedia’s connections to intelligence services from any sources you want.
Their criticism of Western abuse is good, they have some legit talking points. But the alleged Chinese and other AES abuses are grounded on the anticommunist talking points instead of real research. They say “both side bad” for the purpose of making people accept their realities instead of motivating them for a real civil rights movements.
I mean, it’s not like Amnesty Internation regularly criticizes the US, especially in the current situation. But oh, it said something against the CCP, I guess it must be bad.
There’s a difference between actively fighting against Hitler and saying Hitler bad but Stalin is worse. The latter includes a milquetoast criticism of Hitler and regurgitation of CIA and other alphabet mafia propaganda points.
And it is CPC, not “CPP”. CPC stands for “Communist Party of China” go check your facts libshit.
Lol, another “China good, America bad” post. Classic.
Always followed up with accusations of American/Western indoctrination if you disagree. Bonus points for sinophobia accusation if you say anything bad about China. 🥱
I’ve been studying Chinese for years and I’ve visited for a while too.
China is mid. It’s impressive how they’ve advanced so quickly, but their working class is still under a lot of stress and the wealth disparity is grotesque like many countries. They’ve exchanged the freedom to criticize the powers that be for safety and security.
I think they’ve gotten relatively lucky with Xi Jinping. He’s clever and I think generally tries to do the right thing, but when he’s gone I think China is likely to suffer under whoever replaces him.
It’s just that compared to the US even the slimiest turd looks like gold at the moment.
These kinds of maximalist statements you’re making reek of the conservative “I got kicked out just for having a different opinion!”
Like yeah actually if the “anything bad” you say is the same Epstein empire propaganda bullshit meant to justify bombing shitloads of people -like they’re doing right now- then those with a mind and soul will react poorly to that.
Imagine using the term “Epstein empire” while accusing someone else of being subjected to propaganda. 🤣
You’re not actually saying anything, this is just like 3 meaningless internet argument signifiers smashed together with a “definitely not mad” emoji.
It’s an accurate description, cry about it
