I have come to the conclusion that meta-posts suck. They drain everyone of their energy, and they quickly fill up with essay long paragraphs that I have no desire or attention span to wade through and fuck up my mental health.
Rather than focus on site-wide issues, the purpose of this post is to get feedback on this specific comm. What issues do you see here specifically that you would like us to focus more on?
I hope to address problems in a pinpoint manner, and then cross reference those concerns across other comms through similar posts in order to address the bigger picture in the end.
I have no intention of having this post pinned. Too much visibility will drown out everyone’s voices in a cacophony of noise. Please keep your comments relatively short and concise, using frequent paragraph breaks for longer comments so that the information can be easily digested. It helps with my ADHD
If this goes smoothly, I plan to work my way through other comms I moderate and address the specific problems there, too.
edit: I was advised to pin it to this comm, it shall remain unpinned to the main page though.
Maybe not comm-specific enough, but why not just ditch rule #8?
I don’t really see a reason for this and c/gossip to be separated. Is there a way to tell how many users are subbed to one but not the other? My guess is very few if any.
Having two coms for one thing is kinda silly. I really don’t get why it was done
The original idea is that looking at posts of something that a random internet user with no platform and no power said as if it mattered is akin to digital self harm. Initially it was implemented as a blanket ban with no comm where it was allowed, but this comm was added as a substitute. Obviously a lot of people disapproved of it because it felt like admins were stepping in to take away content that users wanted to have, or were unnecessarily making a distinction where none was necessary. Hence the current situation where few users find that rule to be any good at all.
honestly I think the slop takes of important public figures can be just as much self-harm. Have you seen the kind of things Elon Musk posts?
If important people ever say anything worth hearing about, it’ll end up in c/news.
Personally, there are absolutely times where consuming any type of slop is bad for me, but I generally find the people who have a bigger audience to be more harmful than the ones who don’t - it’s easier for me to dismiss a shitty take from a nobody than someone with a large following. Overall, that tends to mean that stepping away from all types is the best route for me if I need a break, but that basically means I need to entirely tune out all current events.
Part of where the lines sometimes get too blurry for me is that an r/conservative post with 1.7k upvotes might be posted by a nobody, but it absolutely has reach, while I had no clue who Heather Morgan was until recently, and yet the distinction between the comms wouldn’t help me to filter down to either set of bad takes, even if rule 8 were enforced here.
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There may have been some people who felt that way, yeah. But they were either a minority or far less vocal than those who felt the mods were making a change for no reason.
Mostly some people only wanted to see big celebrity sort of goss while others wanted to still post random Reddit nerds or no name Twitter weirdos. So there’s a comm for each
The old containment comm for posting weird and horrible takes to mock or brigade instituted a rule requiring things posted there to not just be random bad takes from random nobodies with no engagement or support (and this threshold, although never specifically defined, seemed to be around the level of “a reddit comment/post that had at least around a hundred votes on it”).
A second comm was made for the real dregs people dredged up somewhere, the random twitter posts with no engagement, reddit comments with single digit scores and no replies, etc.
Both of those got shut down and replaced with renamed equivalents (c/gossip for the high profile stuff, c/slop for the rest) in a struggle session that saw a notorious power poster most known for finding and posting the absolute worst dregs (and for killing Henry Kissinger) delete his account and leave the site.
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I don’t either - perhaps it was too implicit, but part of saying “drop the rule” was intended to also be “and close c/gossip in the process”. I’m sure someone has the power to see the deltas, but it might require database queries - I certainly can’t see more than that slop has 704 subscribers and gossip has 514 (and I’m subscribed to neither).
I would also be in favor of abolishing rule 8
What’s rule 8? I’m on mobile and don’t see the sidebar.
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on mobile (assuming browser and not an app, idk about those) you have to scroll all the way up to the top of the page and there should be a button to expand the sidebar, its kinda unintuitive