I get what you’re saying, but I can’t help it, I have to be pedantic here because words matter. How radical a person is is not dependent on how big their platform or loud their voice is, how many people they’ve exposed to leftist thought, or even how much material change they can affect or may have brought about
This is how you began the conversation, this is incoherent; according to you in terms of what is radical, actions don’t matter, radicalizing people doesn’t matter, exposing people to leftist thought, who cares, loudest anti-genocide voice in the country, platforming countless Palestinian voices, teaching 50,000 people the concept of social murder…etc
“Tried your best kid, BUT THAT AIN’T RADICAL”, that’s your take huh?
No, what apparently what only really matters is a person’s take on electoralism and the concept of entryism, that’s how we here at Hexbear judge what is or isn’t radical, absolute nonsense, is democrat derangement syndrome a thing now?
And you wonder why I might be annoyed and put off, the loudest anti-genocide voice in the country is disqualified from the vaunted halls of Hexbear radicalism because he encouraged his viewers to neither vote for or against Harris, while still trashing Harris the whole time, unforgivable
End of the day, this shit still boils down to 2024 for all of you
You are truly hung up on semantics. Hasan is not radical in ML terms but does have significant impact and reach. You are literally conflating concepts, as it’s been explained to you several times. We recognize you’re claiming that in order for a radical to have impact, they must have reach, but this is not the point. The point is that calling Hasan a radical is bizarre given his Democrat entryism even if he does good under the banner of Marxism.
The point is that calling Hasan a radical is bizarre given his Democrat entryism even if he does good under the banner of Marxism.
And there it is, and that’s why all of you are dumb, sorry but pro-Palestine radicalism boosted by his REACH, doesn’t stop being radical just because of his takes on electoralism, and second of all his electoral takes for the last 8 months have been about how the democrat party is shit and is doomed, while still being rightfully skeptical of third party emergence
Regardless that doesn’t trump his radicalism concerning Palestine and how that radicalism is elevated by his reach, my entire point the whole goddamn time
I’m not dumb. I think you’re wrong and arguing out of emotion.
I’ll state it plainly before leaving you to your devices: one’s degree of radical is unrelated to one’s reach. You are conflating concepts. Also, Hasan is not radical in ML terms.
one’s degree of radical is unrelated to one’s reach
One’s expression of radicalism is often ELEVATED by one’s reach, and one’s reach can be defined by one’s radicalism, that’s been my point from the start, far from being “unrelated” they interact with each other, welcome to the real world Neo
Elevating and defining each other, concepts sometimes do that, of course this conceptual interaction is obvious, but you all want to pretend you don’t know how to follow a basic logic chain, because at the end of that chain you’d have to hand it to Hasan, and we can’t have that
No, we have to pretend this forum is more radical and impactful than aipac’s number one target and the literal face of American left radicalism
Seriously get a grip, people in this thread literally said Hasan isn’t “radical” cause of his pro-Harris electoral takes and that he’s friends with and platforms Zionists, people don’t lie this much about a streamer (they apparently don’t watch) unless they got some parasocial hate boner
That’s what’s so obnoxious about this anti-Hasan clique of yours, you all dogpile, you intentionally misinterpret EVERYTHING SOMEONE SAYS, and then when someone pushes back a little, suddenly it’s “get over yourself”, “haha crash out” and “you like seeing homeless people suffer”
When it comes to Hasan, you weirdos act like Destiny stans, it’s gross and unhinged, we get it, you’re all podcast millennials who hate streaming culture, stop making that everyone else’s problem
I don’t trash pro-Palestinian voices, you dipshits do, using anti-Hasan talking points straight out of the Destiny Subreddit
You can’t even see the arguments I’m making, you’re just reacting like a kid called out at recess, “nah uh, you!”, your clique only has semantics, misinterpretation, and dirtbag accusations to lop
And for what? Cause I handed it to a streamer lmao, so yeah I’m not gonna play nice with nonsense and dogpiles, kick rocks
This is how you began the conversation, this is incoherent; according to you in terms of what is radical, actions don’t matter, radicalizing people doesn’t matter, exposing people to leftist thought, who cares, loudest anti-genocide voice in the country, platforming countless Palestinian voices, teaching 50,000 people the concept of social murder…etc
“Tried your best kid, BUT THAT AIN’T RADICAL”, that’s your take huh?
No, what apparently what only really matters is a person’s take on electoralism and the concept of entryism, that’s how we here at Hexbear judge what is or isn’t radical, absolute nonsense, is democrat derangement syndrome a thing now?
And you wonder why I might be annoyed and put off, the loudest anti-genocide voice in the country is disqualified from the vaunted halls of Hexbear radicalism because he encouraged his viewers to neither vote for or against Harris, while still trashing Harris the whole time, unforgivable
End of the day, this shit still boils down to 2024 for all of you
You are truly hung up on semantics. Hasan is not radical in ML terms but does have significant impact and reach. You are literally conflating concepts, as it’s been explained to you several times. We recognize you’re claiming that in order for a radical to have impact, they must have reach, but this is not the point. The point is that calling Hasan a radical is bizarre given his Democrat entryism even if he does good under the banner of Marxism.
And there it is, and that’s why all of you are dumb, sorry but pro-Palestine radicalism boosted by his REACH, doesn’t stop being radical just because of his takes on electoralism, and second of all his electoral takes for the last 8 months have been about how the democrat party is shit and is doomed, while still being rightfully skeptical of third party emergence
Regardless that doesn’t trump his radicalism concerning Palestine and how that radicalism is elevated by his reach, my entire point the whole goddamn time
I’m not dumb. I think you’re wrong and arguing out of emotion.
I’ll state it plainly before leaving you to your devices: one’s degree of radical is unrelated to one’s reach. You are conflating concepts. Also, Hasan is not radical in ML terms.
Good bye.
One’s expression of radicalism is often ELEVATED by one’s reach, and one’s reach can be defined by one’s radicalism, that’s been my point from the start, far from being “unrelated” they interact with each other, welcome to the real world Neo
Elevating and defining each other, concepts sometimes do that, of course this conceptual interaction is obvious, but you all want to pretend you don’t know how to follow a basic logic chain, because at the end of that chain you’d have to hand it to Hasan, and we can’t have that
No, we have to pretend this forum is more radical and impactful than aipac’s number one target and the literal face of American left radicalism
Why? Because he said vote once
It’s wild how you are the person calling others “parasocial” lmao
And literally no one is doing this here:
Seriously get a grip, people in this thread literally said Hasan isn’t “radical” cause of his pro-Harris electoral takes and that he’s friends with and platforms Zionists, people don’t lie this much about a streamer (they apparently don’t watch) unless they got some parasocial hate boner
That’s what’s so obnoxious about this anti-Hasan clique of yours, you all dogpile, you intentionally misinterpret EVERYTHING SOMEONE SAYS, and then when someone pushes back a little, suddenly it’s “get over yourself”, “haha crash out” and “you like seeing homeless people suffer”
When it comes to Hasan, you weirdos act like Destiny stans, it’s gross and unhinged, we get it, you’re all podcast millennials who hate streaming culture, stop making that everyone else’s problem
Have you ever heard the phrase “every accusation a confession”?
I don’t trash pro-Palestinian voices, you dipshits do, using anti-Hasan talking points straight out of the Destiny Subreddit
You can’t even see the arguments I’m making, you’re just reacting like a kid called out at recess, “nah uh, you!”, your clique only has semantics, misinterpretation, and dirtbag accusations to lop
And for what? Cause I handed it to a streamer lmao, so yeah I’m not gonna play nice with nonsense and dogpiles, kick rocks
Oh no, another emoji
The obnoxious radlib faction of Hexbear is mad at me now 