The fact that these people could be allies, by and large, if we could reach them with sane arguments and change their minds is very high-minded, but also very useless in practice.
Yes this is correct, wanting to change their minds by winning in the marketplace of ideas does not work, but that was not what I was trying to say. Cuckservatives are the enemy, especially those who own property. I was saying that the reason they are like that is “they are fucking idiots lol” but plus other things.
Also, I consider them idiots for falling for what is basically a MLM scheme.
Which group is the “them”? If its american liberals and cuckservatives who have fallen for capitalist propaganda, functionally when we inevitably interact with them on the internet I do hate them for their stupidity on an individual level too. However on a bigger picture scale the truth is that they didn’t necessarily swallow the bluepill because they were born stupid, its a combination of multiple factors including how their daily existence from birth has been one massive psyop to keep them that way, they are, to varying degrees, materially incentivized to support western america-led imperialism at home and abroad.
The list is endless. The blame on men only ever boils down to them not being good enough at applying the techniques they got taught, while the blame with women lies in their very nature and being.
The list of redpill manipulation algebra is like an instruction manual on how to be an abuser (manipulate them, cut them off from their friends, constantly lie). I understand what you mean by “blame women” here, this view posits they are fundamentally flawed so the man has to be abusive towards them (“you made me do it!!”).
Afaik the PUAs that I’ve come across in a limited way (through funny video compilations) are less harmful, like they don’t really teach a tradcon ideology about women and are just there to give their scam victims somewhat shit advice just for securing a date, such as why its good to annoy dozens of women on the street and run up escalators. Their methods are based on trying something over and over again until it works by sheer luck.
if they only saw wisdom and did what men want at all times, they too would be happier, here’s some made up statistics that show women are less happy when they work a job and are allowed to go out unsupervised
Some of this redpill/PUA stuff must be a tradcon psyop.
I have no sympathy to give to these people and I take solace in the fact that most of them will never get to procreate.
Your perfectly reasonable opinion that you are entitled to. I think the scam victims who fall for the more abusive PUA/redpill stuff are detestable bastards, definetely a threat to others if they put it into practice and should be put in re-education camps or jail or barbara pit etc. However fundamentally, the vast majority of them are victims of a bad education system and a lack of a proper social support network. The masculinity scammers themselves are a social evil that should be addressed by caning, imprisonment, and barbara pit.
Yes this is correct, wanting to change their minds by winning in the marketplace of ideas does not work, but that was not what I was trying to say. Cuckservatives are the enemy, especially those who own property. I was saying that the reason they are like that is “they are fucking idiots lol” but plus other things.
Which group is the “them”? If its american liberals and cuckservatives who have fallen for capitalist propaganda, functionally when we inevitably interact with them on the internet I do hate them for their stupidity on an individual level too. However on a bigger picture scale the truth is that they didn’t necessarily swallow the bluepill because they were born stupid, its a combination of multiple factors including how their daily existence from birth has been one massive psyop to keep them that way, they are, to varying degrees, materially incentivized to support western america-led imperialism at home and abroad.
The list of redpill manipulation algebra is like an instruction manual on how to be an abuser (manipulate them, cut them off from their friends, constantly lie). I understand what you mean by “blame women” here, this view posits they are fundamentally flawed so the man has to be abusive towards them (“you made me do it!!”).
Afaik the PUAs that I’ve come across in a limited way (through funny video compilations) are less harmful, like they don’t really teach a tradcon ideology about women and are just there to give their scam victims somewhat shit advice just for securing a date, such as why its good to annoy dozens of women on the street and run up escalators. Their methods are based on trying something over and over again until it works by sheer luck.
Some of this redpill/PUA stuff must be a tradcon psyop.
Your perfectly reasonable opinion that you are entitled to. I think the scam victims who fall for the more abusive PUA/redpill stuff are detestable bastards, definetely a threat to others if they put it into practice and should be put in re-education camps or jail or barbara pit etc. However fundamentally, the vast majority of them are victims of a bad education system and a lack of a proper social support network. The masculinity scammers themselves are a social evil that should be addressed by caning, imprisonment, and barbara pit.