• InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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    Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections. They’ll put more effort onto justify their no show than taking an evening to do so.

    To be clear I’m not even disagreeing with their complaints. But their discourse on not voting keeps us form moving left. Voting is an important part. Harm minimization is still important to many vulnerable people.

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      Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections.

      Who the hell cares about .ml? Those are actual tankies. You keep throwing that word around, but it’s not synonymous with “leftist I don’t like.” What group are we talking about here, tankies or leftists?

      But their discourse on not voting keeps us form moving left.

      I’m telling you to back this up with numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

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        I’m telling you to back this up with numbers if you want to be taken seriously.

        Search them yourself. No shows have won pretty much every elections for decades. There are States that show even Texas being able to flip, but people no show. We lefties are the ones making a move and then not showing. We don’t even run third party to spoil and show our significance

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          Search them yourself.

          “Do your own research” are we?

          No shows have won pretty much every elections for decades.

          Proof that those no shows are coming from the left?

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            https://fairvote.org/resources/voter-turnout/#voter-turnout-by-state

            Is that hard to find? Still look at it and over several years. Texas in particular is none voting. Progressive ideas just poll better individually too. That means its our elections to lose as lefties. The fact Rs are working overtime to further disenfranchise is because they know they are unpopular. Many places could flip

            E: look at tx in 2014. If all college DSA, greens, and such showed up several races could have tipped due to how few Rs showed too… Its our game to win and we aren’t playing

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              If all college DSA, greens, and such showed up several races could have tipped due to how few Rs showed too…

              …and if someone had treated them like constituents instead of hostages, they might have. Democrats consider such behavior beneath them. Who do those children think they are? Dick Cheney?

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              You keep making claims without offering any sources for them. Like hell we know American voter turnout is low, doubly so for quite a few red states, but that’s not enough to back up your claim that it’s leftists not voting that’s tipping the scale rather than centrists or undecided people. Like you have still offered no proof that leftists aren’t showing up.

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      Go to the .ml serversvand remind them why its important and that there are more than just presidential elections.

      Yeah, we know. It’s why your wing of the party is trying so hard to ratfuck Mamdani and Fateh. And why they succeeded in ratfucking David Hogg. It’s why they ratfucked Jessica Cisneros, Jamaal Bowman, and Cori Bush.