• onslaught545@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    That is what I’m trying to argue. There was no option that was good for Palestine, so using that as your sticking point was stupid.

    At least with Harris there was a slim chance she’d see reason.

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      Tankies are really showing their privilege. They aren’t under seige so they can afford to wait and keep their self perceived purity. Harm minimization isn’t ideal, but does help more than getting out of the way for fascism.

      There are more than just presidential elections, and those often matter more, yet they still discourage people from showing up. Then they wonder why candidates they like stay on the fringe.

      Voting isn’t everything, but it does matter.

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        Harm minimization isn’t ideal, but does help more than getting out of the way for fascism.

        Let me know if democrats ever have a candidate who doesn’t get out of the way for fascism.

        When they’re not actively helping it by selling it weapons, adopting its immigration policies, and agreeing with it about vulnerable minorities.

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          We could have more AOCs and Mamdanis. But please explain why letting Republicans win uncontested and sell even more weapons is helpful? Pretty much everything is better with the dems, even the ones that we should replace with progressive (which we won’t thanks to tankies no showing)

          PSA if you read carefully you’d see I’m agreeing with you and asking you for help and for my efforts your working twice as hard to leave me in a worse political situation

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            We could have more AOCs and Mamdanis.

            We had two more. Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman. Your pro-genocide-and-nothing-else wing of the party only ever protects centrist incumbents though.

            But please explain why letting Republicans win uncontested and sell even more weapons is helpful? Pretty much everything is better with the dems, even the ones that we should replace with progressive (which we won’t thanks to tankies no showing)

            It isn’t. Maybe democrats should offer an alternative instead of just slightly less of the same shit.

            PSA if you read carefully you’d see I’m agreeing with you

            No. You’re carrying water for a candidate that is no longer running because people said she shouldn’t have supported genocide. Your objection is to the genocide opposition.

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              Maybe democrats should offer an alternative instead of just slightly less of the same shit.

              Did you go to the primary?

              Your objection is to the genocide opposition.

              No its to your lack of pragmatism in voting for progressives were possible and not careing about harm minimization where not because you are privileged enough to not care

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                Did you go to the primary?

                Yes.

                No its to your lack of pragmatism

                I vote for progressives in the primary, even though the genocide happy wing of the party, your genocide happy wing of the party, makes sure that the primaries are kabuki where we don’t get a choice. I voted for harris in the general.

                you are privileged enough to not care

                You care a great deal. You just want the genocide to continue and you got your only fucking wish.

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                  vote for progressives in the primary. I voted for harris in the general.

                  Good and we need more people to join us

                  You just want the genocide to continue and you got your only fucking wish.

                  Feel free to quote where I’ve said so

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                    You saw people objecting to genocide and decided to defend one of its supporters. A genocide supporter who is no longer running. She is no longer politically relevant, but the genocide still is. We need a candidate who doesn’t support genocide. We needed such a candidate in 2024.

                    But since centrist democrats didn’t want such a candidate, we weren’t given an opportunity to vote for one, either in the primaries or in the general. Congratulations on your win. You got what you wanted in the primaries, and you got what you were ok with in the general. Now lecture people who are suffering about how privileged they are to have two parties that consider them expendable.

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      There was one option that could be forced to be good for Palestine, but liberals were like “but my unity against fascism!!!” and browbeat progressives into silence. Remember Uncommitted? Well I fucking do, so congratulations on Trump.

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      Gloat more. It’s all you’re doing. You got your genocide. Stop trying to make everyone love it as much as you do.