• IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world
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    24 days ago

    Did 2 judges deem him to be MS13? Because if they did I’m getting Rittenhouse vibes over this. Dems jumping up and down/flooding the internet by calling him (Rittenhouse) a murderer. The law is clear, as dumb and idiotic as Rittenhouse was, someone pointed a gun at someone who was also armed. He defended himself. But Dems were in so deep they were acting like brainwashed Republicans. This may end up similar. Dems are in too deep, soaking up post after post telling them he was never part of MS13 and are too arrogant to admit they were wrong.

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          24 days ago

          You’ve actually subtracted from the conversation by spreading false information that the rest of us have to go and correct.

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          24 days ago

          You’ve already spouted so much blatant misinformation it’s clear you only absorb what conforms to your fucked up worldview. I’ve wasted enough time arguing with people who don’t care about facts and reality. Now I just give them silly awards and move on, and it is just as productive.

    • FauxPseudo @lemmy.world
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      24 days ago

      Do you want to see the court transcripts showing that he was never in the state that the person accusing him of being a gang member said he was in? Or the court ruling that said he wasn’t a gang member?

      When you read the 5th amendment do you skip the “No person” section?

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        24 days ago

        I’m not disagreeing or agreeing I’m just pointing out the issues with each narrative and don’t want to be sucked into another embarrassing false narrative by the Dems. One side is saying he was MS13 and a duel citizen and the other is suggesting he was not MS13. If he was not in the state, that doesn’t disprove he was MS13, which as far as I can tell is what this is all hinging on. Legally speaking though it is on the judge to show sufficient evidence for their ruling. If they couldn’t get the state he was in right that does call into question the rest of his judgement about him being MS13.

        INAL but no person would apply only to US citizens? Kilmar being a duel citizen is where it gets grey?

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          18 days ago

          Can you show one source claiming they were a dual citizen? You are literally the first person I’ve seen make that claim.

          You fundamentally misunderstand the state-gang claim. One person said he was in the gang when they were in the other state. Except they have never been to that state. That’s one of the reasons a judge found the claim they were in the gang by be completely baseless. A judge. The judge that reviewed all the evidence.

          Nine Supreme Court justices, the president, and the lawyers representing the president all agreed that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was here legally and was illegally deported without due process. Yet people who can barely pass a Turing test know more than these experts and came to a different conclusion.

          No person means no person. Citizen or otherwise. The Constitution doesn’t grant rights. It assumes they are inalienable to all people and established rules telling the government they couldn’t take them away. This is constitutional law 101. Everyone gets due process. Citizen or otherwise. Because the alternative was the road to tyranny.