What you think about this operating software? Pretty niche still, but if its alright maybe we could take the next step and use a almost open source os?
Personally I would love to see it gaining ground as I would love Europe to have its own phone OS.
Ubuntu Touch is German and Postmarket OS is european. I’m not so sure about Mobian.
I’m surprised to learn Ubuntu Touch is german, especialy since the main version of Ubuntu and their parent company (Canonical) is South-African.
Canonical gave up on Ubuntu Touch, but being open source some Norwegian guy decided to continue developing it anyway. Others joined in, leading to the ubports foundation. Canonical let them continue to use the name Ubuntu Touch and there is some continued cooperation, but Ubuntu Touch is completely independent from Canonical these days.
@ubports@mastodon.social
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I ordered a refurbished phone compatible with Sailfish OS a couple days ago to give it a try, hoping to have it up and running by the end of the week. I’m happy to post a review here once I’ve given it a try, if anyone’s interested. Planning to keep it entirely free of Google/Meta apps, so I am expecting there to be some compromises compared to my current Android phone.
Definitely would love to hear your honest thoughts about it when you have tested it!
It’s a secure operating system that has an eye candy user interface. Thus I like the idea of buying a license to support the development though I wish the UI was open-sourced.
The project is being developed by a Finnish company.
And Sailfish OS by history of its development is a direct descendant of the Nokia N9 legacy! They say directly on the Jolla about page that they continue what Nokia left, and I’ve heard some of their developers were OG Nokia Meego devs.
Go open the link posted by @sunshine , it’s all there!
I’m switching to Lineage for the time being and my original plan was using graphene with my next phone but this could become a viable alternative.
AFAIK, Sailfish OS has quite strong ties with russia. I love the approach and the choice of technology, and enjoyed it a lot (much more than the iOS/Android approach) — the platform is indeed magnificent and has quite a few great things about it. Although, I see relying on Sailfish OS to be quite a risky choice, given their close ties with russia and unknown status of their support of russian version of the OS.
Sailfish OS is developed by Jolla, who are a Finish company with offices in Finland (Tampere and Helsinki) and China (Hong Kong).
The Russians have forked Sailfish into Aurora OS, but that’s a separate system. It started out as a cooperation, but Jolla cut all ties with Russia in 2021.
It seems they had Russian investors and took active means to get rid of them:
In 2024, to escape Russia’s investors due to the Ukrainian war, the Jolla initial company filed for bankruptcy, continuing its activity under the JollyBoys name.
I would obviously not use Aurora OS, but do you have any information that would indicate that @jolla@techhub.social or Sailfish OS are compromised?
I do not as of now, although I am still very suspicious about the company, partly because of weird “no politics” response when team was asked to claim their stance on full-blown invasion. As a strong reason for it is that Jolla business with russia was being done after Crimea peninsula annexation.
Bottom line: I do not see this platform as being actively involved with warmongering state, but as one that directly supported an ability for it, and a potential risk.
More or less the entirety of western society failed in not sanctioning Russia profoundly in 2014, and we are now paying the cost. No doubt. But I wouldn’t exaggerate Jolla’s role - going through a bankruptcy to shake investors off seems to me to be dedication, even if it might be a bit late.
Yeah, I see your point, and it kind of makes sense to see bankruptcy as an attempt to start clean. I did not know about that, thanks for letting me know.
Still, my take is that Jolla’s products should be considered carefully, and history should be taken into account.
I think phone operating systems are incredibly sensitive software, and they should always be considered carefully. So no disagreement there.
Ironic as fuck then that I’m currently using stock Android. Oh well.
Yeah… I know the feeling :)
They severed all ties with Russia several years ago, I think the company is now entirely Finnish.
I’m a user of #SailfishOS by @jolla since 2020 😁
ooo, what you think about it? do all apps work? is it better then android? hows the battery?
I’m going to reply with my lemmy account that I’ll write a long text haha.
It is a system that is very good, has many interesting apps, and also allows emulation of Android apps for officially supported devices with license (in some others you can also use waydroid, but does not work in all). As it doesn’t have Google services, some apps that require it don’t work or some of its options don’t work, although Micro-G can be installed to solve some problems.
Regarding better or worse, I would say it is different, it gives you more freedom to modify things in the system, more privacy, but I think it is not suitable for all users, since that greater freedom of modification, involves having a responsibility to know what is modified to not break anything.
As for the battery, in my case I have no complaint the truth and I will say well all day with intensive use, although I can not compare with Android, since the two devices I have, Sony Xperia 10 Plus and Sony Xperia 10 V (which I use as the main device currently although its version is in beta and does not work things like the camera or fingerprint reader yet), I have used them exclusively with SailfishOS.
In my case I am quite comfortable with this system and that’s why recently when I renewed my phone I opted for another compatible with it. I invite you to visit their forum to learn a little more about it https://forum.sailfishos.org/latest
