House Democratic lawmakers reportedly used a closed-door meeting earlier this week to vent their frustrations with progressive advocacy groups that have been driving constituent calls and pressuring the party to act like a genuine opposition force in the face of the Trump administration’s authoritarian assault on federal agencies and key programs.
Yeah it’s a clever lie that’s perpetuated that says progressives have no where to go if they try to break from the Democrats. But secretly a more progressive platform would actually draw over a lot of disaffected libertarians and lite conservatives who only vote conservative because they’ve been convinced that they should only vote in opposition to Democrats instead of in favor of anything.
from my experience with some libertarian 2a people I’d agree with this. I was surprised how indifferent (good) they were about minorities and trans people considering how they vote. honestly having a pro-drug, pro-gun* platform would win a huge chunk of them. and both of those would also be good for oppressed minorities (imo).
actually sitting here thinking about it do we have any figures on how much tax money gets pumped into prison systems that rely on drug enforcement to fill? not to mention the military industrial complex. cuz I know leftists like to riff on libertarians about “I don’t understand how taxes work” but there’s a lot of tax money going to things I don’t agree with either.
*more like “sex positive” in the sense of education and safety and not shaming people who partake. not whatever the NRA is doing.
I mean, lots of “libertarians” are frothing at the mouth to defund our military but agree that the government should at least subsidize healthcare and education with some of those funds. The terms we have are loosey-goosey and most people are incoherent policy to policy. We’ve just been sorted into groups by a century of two-party propaganda.
I’ve always said if Democrats just shut the fuck up about guns or God forbid even walk back a teensy but, they would have no problem winning. Plenty of single issue voters vote red because of successful propaganda. How the hell anybody thinks anyone is coming for their buns is beyond me, I always ask for an explanation of who and how their guns will be taken from them. Never a coherent answer.
My fiance said she’s coming for my buns tonight
Nice. Happy Valentine’s Day!
Lucky guy!
Gun nuts won’t buy it. The base will. Moving to the right has hit a wall and anyone who suggests it just likes moving to the right.
Laying off the gun issue doesn’t have to be a move to the right, plenty of leftists own guns. I’m just saying they should clearly state that they aren’t coming for anyone’s guns
But it will be.
You expect gun nuts to buy that?
Why do you have to jump right to the extreme? If you’re looking for useful discourse, immediately shutting down what you seem to agree would be a good idea isn’t helpful. I know plenty of gun nuts that would absolutely drop the hate of the Republicans if they knew their hobby was secured. It’s easy to do simply because NOBODY IS ACTUALLY GOING TO COME FOR ANYBODY’S GUNS. Who’s going to do it, cops? The guys that love guns? The military? It’s just a lack of critical thinking and a little bit of reassurance might go a long way.
I live in Texas. I’ve seen Democrats run on “Of course we’re not gonna take your guns!” And I’ve seen the response from gun nuts. They. Don’t. Buy. It. Republicans shriek “gun grabber!” even louder because it sticks even when it’s not true.
This is just moving to the right for the sake of moving to the right. It will gain nothing, and it will lose people for whom gun control is an actual issue.
It’s not a lie when one party is fascist. Trying to split just ensures Nazi rule like IT JUST FICKING DID
one party is more fascist
There is only one party and its fascist. They’re not the same because they’re just as bad. They’re the same because they’re on the same team.
Democrats suck the fattest corporate dick, lovingly, and laugh at the poor fighting amongst themselves, but it’s not good to dilute such a serious label as fascist with something you don’t like.
Nothing is ‘diluted’ about that term. Being complicit in genocide, extreme violence and prosecution simply for protesting it. Putting kids in cages, imperialism, regime change, warmongering, and plenty more. They are fascist, they’re just too full of themselves to admit it. It’s not good to negate these serious facts just because you don’t like it.
Your final little retort there mocking me is the most childish thing I’ve read on the internet in a little bit. You can compare a mountain to a molehill if you like but I think we have bigger problems to worry about.
What solution do you propose to not working with the Democrats right now? Splitting the party and forming a progressive party hoping for scraps from the right that just want guns AND weed and don’t care about trans folks? What’s your plan besides being angry at Corporate Democrats? Have you donated to any of our more progressive Representatives?
Nobody needs to split anything or work with them. 3rd parties already exist, even if they get scammed and sabotaged by your beloved party. “donated to any of our more progressive Representatives” LOL let me know who these ‘progressives’ are. BTW I’m European, not from your uniparty pseudo democracy and therefore can think outside the box. Your county’s politics are ridiculous and embarrassing. I’m really happy you got Trump. Him destroying your country is the best thing that could happen for the world.
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The centrist response to anyone being unhappy with Netanyahu’s wing of the party.
LOL look at him seething. Your meddling imperialist regime and its horrible politics are a plague for the entire world so it does concern us. If it bothers you, then stay TF out of everyone’s bussiness. You really are a typical american. Thinking he can decide who can speak. Pretentious AF. Anyway, enjoy coping with your loss and becoming even more of a poor backward shithole. You’re all top entertainment.