Could you please not waste taxpayer money on Nazi stuff?
Evil things from the past must be uncovered and brought into daylight. People from the current generation and from the following generations need to understand what has been done, and how and why it was evil.
Otherwise there is high risk of repeating the evil. Think about it.
You might argue if this certain building is needed? Yes, it is helpful at least, because it is an original building. Visible, visitable, Undeniable.
Well, one might say the Adlernest got brought into too much luminosity.
It’s not as if it was some unkown hideout where secret Nazi cabals plotted even sinister things. We know what it was, we know what it was used for. Now it’s gone, so what?
Given its popular status, a legitimate point is why to preserve it in the first place? Travel to the same place Hitler was having his vacations in! No better place to pay tribute to the Führer! It’s the same reason the Führerbunker was flooded with concrete.
I’ve seen lots of pictures of segregation signs from the American 50s and 60s. It never truly hit us until we stumbled on one at an abandoned rail station.
We knew all about the Tulsa Race Riot (as it was called at the time). But nothing made it real like wandering those flattened streets.
So a museum on the history of the Nazi era is waste of money?
That’s actually the position a far right revisionist would take…
an exhibition dedicated to the history of Nazism was later also established there
Edit: Better article by the BBC at https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm74pk1g51nko including this line:
Blume has made clear on Bavarian radio that “it should not and must not cost the taxpayer anything”.
So no, not even taxpayer money (probably insurance) will be spent.
There is a difference between preserving history and rebuilding it.
Yes, there is. And if you cared to do even 30 seconds of research instead of basing everything on a shoddy partial translation from German right-wing tabloid BILD, you’d know there are is now a commission of historians working on a proposal what exactly to do with the ruins.
There’s also nothing preventing them from building an actual, purpose-built museum on the site, or maybe even next to Hilter’s burnt house (which could be preserved in that state, with a sign explaining what happened, why it happened, and why it has not been rebuilt).
Amazing how people reply in a thread that already links the better BBC article and still make it obvious they didn’t care to read any of it.
Yeah, nothing. Except the plan is to restore it.
As others have already said, it is important to keep alive also our history’s evil part as this hopefully helps that it doesn’t repeat - unlike as in countries such as China, where the government considers it an insult if someone calls Mao Zedong a dictator. We don’t need a culture here in Europe that ignores the truth.
As I’ve also already said, there is a difference to preserving historic evil and rebuilding it. I am very certain there are many conservation projects that could use the cash as well that’s going to be spend on this.
The article boils down to “preparations are underway to restore the Kehlsteinhaus”. But that’s not really informative, even little misleading at this point.
Politicians have been in favour of a “Wiederaufbau” right from the start - which can be translated as a rebuild. But it doesn’t have to be reconstruction that just mimics the old building.
An expert commission is supposed to work out how exactly this should be handled.
I don’t know if such a commission has even started working. And knowing German bureaucracy, it will take some time until they can even think about starting any serious rebuild.
The newest info I found is an article with updates from October 30 and November 9.
October 30:
Die Aufräumarbeiten nach dem Brand am Kehlsteinhaus in Berchtesgaden sind vom Winter eingeholt worden. Der Zweckverband Bergerlebnis Berchtesgaden will das schwer beschädigte Gebäude nach der Freigabe durch die Polizei mit Zäunen, Gerüsten und weiteren Schutzmaßnahmen absichern. Damit sollen zusätzliche Schäden durch Schnee, Frost und Wind verhindert, aber auch ein unbefugtes Betreten oder mögliche Plünderungen verhindert werden.
Wenn das Wetter es zulässt, sollen Hubschrauber Absperr- und Gerüstmaterial sowie weitere Baustoffe auf den Kehlstein bringen. Wie hoch der Schaden ist, bleibt weiter offen.
The clean-up work following the fire at the Kehlsteinhaus in Berchtesgaden has been hampered by the onset of winter. The Bergerlebnis Berchtesgaden Association intends to secure the badly damaged building with fences, scaffolding and other protective measures once the police have given the all-clear. This is intended to prevent further damage caused by snow, frost and wind, as well as to deter unauthorised entry and potential looting.
Weather permitting, helicopters are to transport barrier and scaffolding materials, as well as other building materials, to the Kehlstein. The extent of the damage remains unclear.
November 9
Nach dem Brand am Kehlsteinhaus in Berchtesgaden haben die Sicherungsarbeiten an der Ruine begonnen. Mithilfe eines Transporthubschraubers wurde am Donnerstag (5. November) ein Turmdrehkran auf dem mehr als 1800 Meter hohen Kehlstein installiert. Die einzelnen Elemente des Krans mussten wegen der schwer zugänglichen Lage des Gebäudes per Hubschrauber nach oben geflogen werden.
Mit dem Kran soll nun ein Notdach über der weitgehend ausgebrannten Ruine errichtet werden. Das Gebäude soll damit vor Schnee, Regen und Frost geschützt und winterfest gemacht werden. Zudem ist der Kehlsteinaufzug nach einer TÜV-Prüfung wieder eingeschränkt nutzbar.
Following the fire at the Kehlsteinhaus in Berchtesgaden, work to secure the ruins has begun. On Thursday (5 November), a tower crane was installed on the Kehlstein, which stands at an altitude of more than 1,800 metres, with the aid of a transport helicopter. Due to the building’s remote location, the individual components of the crane had to be flown up by helicopter.
The crane will now be used to erect a temporary roof over the largely burnt-out ruins. This is intended to protect the building from snow, rain and frost and make it winter-proof. In addition, the Kehlstein lift is once again available for limited use following a TÜV inspection.
(Translated with DeepL (free version))
