Furniture giant IKEA has agreed to pay 6 million euros ($6.5 million) towards a government fund compensating victims of forced labor under Germany’s communist dictatorship, in a move campaigners hope will pressure other companies to follow.
“After it became known that the company was involved in forced prison labor, IKEA accepted our invitation to talk.”
So from the sound of it IKEA didn’t give two shits as long as no one knew, just like any other big company. You cannot tell me that people at IKEA simply didn’t know, someone knew.
Pretty much everyone knew but OTOH it’s not like they were making contracts with prisons, they had contracts with ordinary GDR companies which used prison labour to supplement their own workforce, often on an irregular basis. E.g. if you had a contract with a GDR company to supply a certain number of t-shirts per month for three years, they’d do it with their own workforce, they’d get another short-term contract and fulfil part of that and part of your contract with prison labour. The whole economy was infested with it, basically impossible to do business with the GDR and not have prison labour involved somewhere in the supply chain. What are you expecting, you’re doing business with tankies.
I’d see stronger culpability if they had been contracting out dangerous work. GDR wasn’t stellar at work safety in general, not atrocious either, but prison labour in e.g. the chemical industry? It’s not that they didn’t gave a fuck, it was extra unsafe by design.
I am sure Ikea will acknowledge having contributed to illegal deforestation of original forests in Romania, Belarus, and Russia in the 2020s at some point, too.
Of course they knew. For Ingvar Kamprad, it was all about saving money. No matter what.
So prison labor for profit is bad now? When is the EU going to completely sanction the US then?
So prison labor for profit is bad now?
It should be a matter of course, but the EU already banned forced labour explicitly this years. The question is rather that we must ensure that the law is enforced.
It’s s bit different when you do forced labour for actual crimes and not just because you had an opinion. Disagreeing with the government is not the same as rape and murder. These germans were sentenced to life for belieiving in modern rights.
Actual crimes, as in manslaughter, rape, stealing from another.
No. It is not different. Nobody should be forced to do Labour. Prisons are not supposed to be money making machines. Prisons are supposed to reintegrate people into society. But I guess the US has not heard about that.
If you run over children with your car and have to fix potholes for 8 yeara, that’s ok in my books. Having to do that because you think women should be able to vote IS different.
But that’s merely my opinion and fits my world view perfectly
And it’s not about making money, it’s about having consiquenses. The prisoner working has a guard (at least where I live) whose pay is more than what the convict makes.
Again. It should not be about punishment but about re-socializing.
At least in theory.
Part of resocialising is that you get to meet your demons daily. I’m from Finland and our system has one of the highest success rates in the world.
You downvoting me makes it seem like you’d prefer to coddle someone that chose harm, and I find that apalling.
I did, in fact, not downvote you.
Right, we only do forced labour for people who smoke weed, which is morally superior.
Yeah fuck that, dude. 😑 Like I said, actual crimes.
Like providing health care to women?
You see, people are pointing this out because what is and isn’t a crime changes over time. Slavery however is always bad. Hence we should never enslave people.
What is and isn’t a crime that lands you hard time or civic duty hasn’t really changed much at all during modern times, at least in Finland.
When they do, the consequences change with them.
For exmple having a repeat DUI person clean roadsides is a great way to rehabilitate.
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Who gets to decide what “actual crimes” are and what aren’t? For instance in Germany for good reason hate speech is forbidden and in rare cases can put you in prison. By US standards inconceivable. Meanwhile in the US people are coerced into plea deals for crimes they didnt commit, or get mandatory minimum sentences for drug posession in small quantities.
I don’t think anyone with a relatively good conscience thinks The US has it right. Luckily they are only 3% percent of the world.
By population. Isn’t the US portion of global GDP around 15%?
So make having an opinion a crime and it’s fine?
That’s exactly what I said, thank you.
This was slavery, in the eighties, and Ikea figured they could benefit from it (they 100% knew) and save what I suppose was an absurd amount of money
40 years later they pay 6 millions
I know many corporations are awful but we should’t become desensitized. How can you still shop there knowing this
Because they are currently the only company acknowledging their fault? Boycotting them while ignoring all the other companies benefiting from the exact same practice seems counterproductive…
They didn’t reveal the information, the former prisoners first shone light on it when they asked for compensation.
They only felt like they had to make amends once the story came out, not during the 30 years prior. strange how that goesTake control of the narrative.
Pay a research group to confirm what has already been revealed. On the wikipedia page it almost seems like the whole thing was their idea
(from a quick search this was revealed in 2011 by a german media, opening Stasi files)
And it works too
This is in no way a defense, but rather an accusation: many other companies pull or have pulled similar things. Hasbro famously used near slave labor when they partnered with Good Shepherd Sisters, one of many similar “Magdalene Laundries”; religious convents that some women were put in for sins as horrifying as “having a baby out of wedlock.”
Behind the Bastards discusses them in their episodes titled “How the catholic church murdered Ireland’s babies”
At first glance I thought this was satirical, implying ikea was fined for making people build their own furniture.
