The power trip / ban doesn’t bother me, but the misinformation does. They present as leftist, but flare up around US elections discouraging voter turnout via ‘bOtH siDeS’ garbage. that only ever elevates shit like MAGA.

In the linked thread, OP promotes rioting while discouraging voter turnout. My comments agreed with activism like riots, but pointed out that it’s not an either-or thing. You can riot -and- vote; and even if you don’t have it in you to riot, still do vote.

Banned.

You can see my removed comment quoted in the post after mine.

This ‘blue MAGA’ tankie shit is somehow worse than the loud-and-clear MAGA shit over on Reddit - at least those neonazis were honest about who they were.

Anywho, YSK. Spaces like r/conservative were clearly labeled and easy to avoid; LateStageCapitalism@lemmy.world presents as a cause worth rallying around, but only until you peel up the veneer and see that they’re the same fucking thing.

Also please vote. In addition to whatever flavor of activism tickles your fancy.

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    Note to all: This is not the place to get on your “VOTE” soapboaxes. Stick to judging the moderation action.

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      And one of the main ways to judge posts is to VOTE them up or down. Hmmm.

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    LATE STAGE CAPITALISM IS AN INVALID SUB RUN SOLELY BY AN ANTI-DEMOCRATIC CRYBABY MOD THAT BANS EVERYONE THAT DISAGREES WITH HIM AND HE IS MOST LIKELY A PAID FOREIGN SHILL.

    Not sure how many times I have to keep pointing this out, but I will because fuck that loser.

    Mod’s name is GodlessCommie (lol) and he spreads anti-voter sentiment and runs the sub as his own personal cry space that you can only take part in if you support his narrative.

    He is stupid, dangerous, and most likely being paid by people who want to see American decline.

    Do not participate in that sub and let everyone you can know not to as well.

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    Tankie outreach community with mods that are pro Russia and censorship heavy. One of them loves responding to comments they’ve deleted. LW does nothing like usual in response to problematic moderators. PTB.

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    If you care about a community, make another one, the way lemmy is setup you get just as much visibility as a popular one

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    I see OP has multiple comments that are all deleted. A reply quoting their “you should vote” comment isn’t deleted. There are comments still up like:

    What prevents you from voting and rioting at the same time?

    There is absolutely no reason to not vote.

    To me it looks like something else triggered the ban.

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      It’s so that other people can still pile on. Telling people to vote is against LSC community rules.

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        Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.

        It looks like they’ve got razor thin margins on what they allow.

        -You should vote ✅️

        -You should vote for the party that isn’t measurably making you life worse. ❌️

        They’re guilty of “both sides bad” in my opinion. An endorsement of any mainstream party or candidate breaks their rules.

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          Saying you should vote would also be supporting capitalism or the parties/ideologies that uphold it.

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    Yeah trolls who go into communities and directly and obviously violate the rules the community don’t have any room to bitch and complain.

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    Being banned from latestagecapitalism is an honor. They have conservative mods. You can be banned there for criticizing conservatism or saying things that are too far from Fox News talking points.

    Not really sure how or why we end up with conservative mods in these communities, but it really ruins them.

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      LateStageCapitalism is run by a sole moderator who is either a foreign shill or so stupid that they’re doing their work for them for free.

      He bans anyone that goes against his narrative. I am by no means the only person that has spoken out against that sub and its mod. It’s becoming public knowledge at this point that the sub is compromised.

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      They have communist mods, I think they’re Marxists. I’d respect you more if you at least said you’re against the “extreme left” or something like that instead of pretending that everyone who isn’t liberal is conservative or secretly conservative.

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    Voting is the most basic thing you must do as a citizen. I don’t know the point for reducing turnout is, other than manipulation.

    The more people turn out, more it clearly shows how much of a voting population are fascist/racist adjacent, like the USA and others.

    So they can’t hide behind “That doesn’t represent us and it’s only a small minority” when the votes clearly shows what most of them “value.”

    Go VOTE

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      GodlessCommie, the sole active mod on that sub, literally spends all his time speaking out against voting or banning people that promote voting. He is either an asshole or a paid foreign shill, which are kind of the same thing.

      To be clear, he bans people who promote voting as a concept. It isn’t about people plugging a specific party. Just voting in general.

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    I find it weird how they remove comments of people with massive upvote ratios. Like arent those comments the community overwhelmingly agrees with? How are they justifying consistently censoring their community this way?

    PTB just because of that

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      How are they justifying consistently censoring their community this way?

      The sole active mod on LateStageCapitalism is an insufferable crybaby who is either an accelerationist or a paid foreign shill. If you go against his narrative, you will be banned. It’s a trash sub that shouldn’t be used by any reasonable person.

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      Things can be both popular and bad for a community and/or breaking its rules. It’s obvious that this isn’t what’s happened here, but upvotes alone aren’t everything - you could probably get a lot of upvotes with a good meme in any discussion community (because who checks what community a post came from every time before upvoting), or post an inflammatory political take that is bound to get a lot of comments that mods now have to deal with.

      Here however, the Mod simply disagreed.

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        Yeah, but even so, these are just totalitarian and absurd rules. They’re destroying freedom of speech because they’re compelling the language and speech to only what they look as acceptable. That’s certainly just minifascism.

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    Wow. Your post is so reasonable, strongly in favour of rioting, correctly identifying it as better than voting, just allowing for voting. And still banned.

    I’ve blocked a lot of PTB comms because of all the trolly libs calling anyone left of Schumer a tankie then whining about being banned from leftist spaces, but this is a bonkers ban. And from .world as well, not even a leftist instance. 🤷

    To save folks a click:

    Brace yourself for an apparently super edgy hot take:

    Rioting > voting

    rioting & voting > just rioting

    just voting > nothing at all

    Discouraging voting or rioting = supporting the status quo.

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      I can’t disagree with that at all. I don’t think any reasonable person could.

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      Discouraging voting or rioting = supporting the status quo.

      To be silent in the face of oppression is to stand with the oppressor.

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    PTB. Everyone should be voting in this election. People like that boil all nuance down to two black and white naive takes:

    • That you are either a voter OR you go out and protest. In reality there is nothing stopping you from doing both.
    • That you should not vote because there is no unicorn candidate. In reality there will never be a perfect candidate.

    I have voted in every election in the last 20 years, local, state, federal - and I have yet to see a candidate that I agree with completely. It will never happen. Expecting change tomorrow is a naive take. Slow incremental change is the only change I’ve seen on this planet. You are going to need to compromise on candidates, because it’s always a bad and a worse candidate, and not voting means you are okay with the worse candidate. It’s happening right now, and people are shocked pikachu of what happened in the last election. The reason is simple, people didn’t vote.

    Conservatives desperately want us to not go and vote. That should really tell you everything. Does it mean you have to agree with the candidate on everything? Absolutely not. Does it mean that your morals are the same as the person you voted for? Also absolutely not. Politics is usually voting against things you don’t want than voting for things you do. People are strange complex creatures, and you’ll never find a candidate who agrees with you. (Yes, even in multiple party scenarios).

    If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice

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      (Relatedly; we’re voting for the lesser of evils mostly because of the voting system we’re using. RTV improves on this substantially, is used in several federal elections across the country, and has reasonable appeal in many places.)

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      Slow incremental change is the only change I’ve seen on this planet.

      Only positive progressive change is slow and incremental. Regressives and authoritarians are able to pull off change pretty fast when they realize the system is too slow to stop them and won’t punish them for wrecking everything.

      That is why it is important to vote in every election to mitigate the damage they want to do.