• MaoTheLawn [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    25 days ago

    Boomers like him and Jesse Ventura always have weird takes on 9/11. I think for most of them it was their big way into modern age conspiratorial thinking, and by fluke it led them towards leftist knowledge of CIA/imperialism rather than right wing Jewish world order theories.

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      Roger Waters wasn’t led to leftist knowledge of imperialism through this kind of thing, he’s an old school communist. His mother was chairman of the Young Socialists in Cambridge University and both his parents were open and prominent CPB members.

      This is just shameless self promotion because boomers that like his music also like Tucker.

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      9/11 was done by mossad and the CIA and their saudi salafist allies and proxies, this isn’t a conspiracy it’s just what happened

      stop calling people who can recognize reality ‘conspiracy theorists’ that shit doesn’t work anymore. just like ‘anti-semite’ it’s been driven into the ground and made useless as a pejorative or snarl word by the zionist neocon blob center

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          25 days ago

          If you like trueanon they have a series on 9/11 that I think is serviceable, it’s fairly good about staying grounded in plausible assertions rather than too much speculation.

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          You can watch Charlie Wilson’s War, starring Tom Hanks. The last thing that happens in the whole movie is

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          9/11 audio, drawing a direct connection between the funding and arming of the mujahideen, which the movie is about, and the attacks

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        Bush sr totally understood the American psyche and how to do the most obvious crimes while stifling criticism.

        His son went along with his plans. But it’s thanks to his father that there was both 911, and electric voting controlled by his cronies.

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        24 days ago

        I mean, it’s easy to argue that America created the conditions for 9/11 to happen, and that pretty much everything that’s happened in the middle east since they started invading it has been more or less been American created outcomes, but as to whether they deliberately allowed 9/11 itself to happen - I just don’t believe it - nor that it was an inside job on a jet-fuel-steel-beams level.

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          24 days ago

          Explain the cheering Mossad agents outside, the Israelis who all weren’t at the World Trade Center that day, Building 7, bodies blown out onto nearby rooftops in areas that supposedly just had office fires & the known CIA arming and funding of the Saudi pilots then

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            Ok. They didn’t all have ties, and Israel requires military service so everyone’s going to military related. I agree, this one is the most suspicious, but I can’t believe in the whole theory based on this one alone. I am willing to believe they were just sick assholes.

            Plenty of Israelis and Jews were in the towers and surrounding areas. Records dont show any abnormal absenteeism. I know 2 people who ‘should’ve’ been in 9/11 but had a flight delayed or whatever. I know one person who got off the train one stop before the 7/7 bombings just because they fancied a walk and a bacon sandwich that day. Things just happen.

            Bodies blown onto rooftops - the insane forces inside that building shot debris out for miles. When those floors collapsed a great vacuum of force was shot out the sides. When the plane hit there was a fat fuck off explosion. A limb is not that heavy.

            Building 7 is pretty convincing, I will give you that. Very odd ‘coincidence’ but these things do happen on the same day as other things happen. When you scour a mega city for clues you’re going to find connections.

            There isn’t a direct link to the funding of the pilots is there? CIA trained bin laden and so on in Afghanistan. They’ve funded radical terror groups to the tune of millions of dollars. Yes, US money might’ve bought groups money, but I don’t believe the hijackers were in contact with the US at any point regarding orchestrating 9/11.

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        24 days ago

        I just knew him as the Pink Floyd guy who had good takes on Venezuela and Palestine.

        I’ve actually met the guy, and I even worked for his old bandmate David Gilmour (though I believe they’re basically now enemies). I just never really looked into his political background.