Ah, well, except for pathological issues like narcissists and psychopaths for example. There are quite a few people who do evil things and state that they do it because it’s their right and privilege to do so.
They might see themselves as privileged, but rarely as the villain. Narcissists see themselves as the hero, through a VERY distorted lens. Sociopaths don’t get the empathy feedback making them the villain.
It’s a good way to get a handle on their minds. How would it have to be twisted to make it seem either a non-issue or good.
E.g. the rich see money as closer to a score in a computer game. Blue shelling your brother in Mario Kart, just before the finish doesn’t make you a villain. Similarly taking $50 dollars/month more from 10,000 families doesn’t look bad. That’s barely a trip to the pub! (The low income households involved would disagree massively).
That’s basically what I mean. They don’t see themselves as weak and helpless. They are the powerful hero main character. It might be an anti hero, but rarely a villain.
Very few people see themselves in a massively negative light (and function well). If your understanding of their motives requires themselves to be weak or evil, it’s likely got serious flaws.
If it helps, I treat it like dancing. The moves don’t make logical sense, but if you deviate too far, people get upset.
Also, counterintuitively, being both unapologetic and positive gets remarkably good results. NTs instinctively follow the group mindset. We struggle. If we set the default, they will often sync to us, particularly if it’s a positive vibe. Also, NTs are very good at spotting mismatches. If you almost got, but not quite, you trigger uncanny valley effects. If you don’t try and hide (all) your weirdness, they are often a lot more accepting. They don’t pick up “lying creepy” vibes, with no context. It doesn’t work with everyone, but it’s become my default interaction mode.
It’s slowly shifted for me. It’s now less “NTs suck” and more “NTs are boring”. The weirdos of various persuasions are generally far more fun and interesting.
Ah, well, except for pathological issues like narcissists and psychopaths for example. There are quite a few people who do evil things and state that they do it because it’s their right and privilege to do so.
But still, those are exceptions to the rule.
They might see themselves as privileged, but rarely as the villain. Narcissists see themselves as the hero, through a VERY distorted lens. Sociopaths don’t get the empathy feedback making them the villain.
It’s a good way to get a handle on their minds. How would it have to be twisted to make it seem either a non-issue or good.
E.g. the rich see money as closer to a score in a computer game. Blue shelling your brother in Mario Kart, just before the finish doesn’t make you a villain. Similarly taking $50 dollars/month more from 10,000 families doesn’t look bad. That’s barely a trip to the pub! (The low income households involved would disagree massively).
I disagree, blueshelling your brother, makes you a monster.
Only if you’re sure they wouldn’t happily send a shell your way, were the situation reversed. That is a rare situation.
Narcissists see themselves as great and glorious, but they don’t have to be good per se. Anyhow, nevermind discussing literally sick people 😁
That’s basically what I mean. They don’t see themselves as weak and helpless. They are the powerful hero main character. It might be an anti hero, but rarely a villain.
Very few people see themselves in a massively negative light (and function well). If your understanding of their motives requires themselves to be weak or evil, it’s likely got serious flaws.
It really sucks to be an Autist. We often see us very negative due to the (unearned) negative feedback loop mostly stemming from misunderstandings.
Sorry for the derail.
As a fellow autistic, I fully feel you.
If it helps, I treat it like dancing. The moves don’t make logical sense, but if you deviate too far, people get upset.
Also, counterintuitively, being both unapologetic and positive gets remarkably good results. NTs instinctively follow the group mindset. We struggle. If we set the default, they will often sync to us, particularly if it’s a positive vibe. Also, NTs are very good at spotting mismatches. If you almost got, but not quite, you trigger uncanny valley effects. If you don’t try and hide (all) your weirdness, they are often a lot more accepting. They don’t pick up “lying creepy” vibes, with no context. It doesn’t work with everyone, but it’s become my default interaction mode.
I had a lengthy answer here, but being around NT with NT expectations sucks, as you know.
It’s slowly shifted for me. It’s now less “NTs suck” and more “NTs are boring”. The weirdos of various persuasions are generally far more fun and interesting.