He is so very, very very clearly fucking dead. He’s dead. The guy is not alive. Mitch McConnell is ACTIVELY IN HELL, RIGHT THIS SECOND. I said that as a fact BEFORE the lying machine informed me that he was FUCKING COVERED UP when they wheeled him out on a stretcher. That information makes me believe there is an actual negative chance that mitch McConnell’s body presently contains his own blood
For some reason I feel possessed by the spirit of liberalism and im just so aghast that this lie is so obvious and yet every rules nerd watching is just like “ah but that’s the rules, though.” Like ahhhhhhhh holy shit
I google a lot of shit and that hasn’t really increased or decreased, I’ve just stopped adding -reddit and parsing through forum conversation for shit if the information presented to me seems like it isn’t made up. All in single instance incognito chrome tabs so it’s not keeping conversational context or anything (i think people going 10000s of words into a single instance where it tries to “remember” all that shit is a large driver of them giving really fucked up outputs) and so that I can tell myself I’m minimizing the utility of the data my use gives Google. Any “talking to” an LLM i’ve done has generally been in the form of me having a weird question/idea/phrasing and wanting to see how it reacts to it (which, every time i engage in that way, I really feel i should be paid for because I’m basically doing QA shit for free) either out of curiosity for the question or to better familiarize myself with the LLM and how it works and responds differently to different phrasings (i.e. me figuring out that just going “oh come on” causes it to go off the guard rails most of the time)
The only reasons I even mention it as the source of whatever info i’m discussing at the time is 1) so that the information can be taken with the grain of salt that it needs and 2) as a reminder to both myself and others that the machine tells lies. I know it does!
But yeah i guess I’m doing it a lot and if it annoys you, you’re not alone, my partner doesn’t like it either. But like I said, I google a lot of shit and I did so before they put the lying machine into the search browser, so subjectively I feel like I have this fun experience where I learn something by essentially the same path as I used to but it’s bad because it’s a socially disapproved of source
You are not thinkings about this correctly imo. The machine doesn’t ‘tell lies’. The machine has no method of actually discerning the truth content of a statement. The machine isn’t lying, it is telling you exactly what the algorithm has generated for it to say because it doesn’t know and can never actually know, how to tell false data from true data.
It has no actual epistemology.
Okay but I know that and this seems like quibbling over the nature of intent to tell a lie. The inaccuracy machine doesn’t sound the same
Telling a lie requires intent, lying requires to know what the truth actually is. Machines, at least these ones, do not have intent, nor the ability to determine truth from falsehood.
You are basically agreeing with tech propaganda by framing their machine this way, even in a negative light. You are adhering to their narrative that these are Artificial Intelligence, a concept that has now become so overbroad, that we have to say “Artificial General Intelligence” to discuss what people thought of as “AI” up until this whole LLM, LIM and LAM boondoggle.
They are not intelligent. They have basic control and stimulus response, but that is like saying your digestive system is intelligent.
Okay i think you’re just taking my calling it a lying machine too literally, i’m still gonna call it that
It is an objectively wrong description of what is happening, and the way you talk about the machine means that I know you are anthropomorphizing it, even if you are doing so negatively. That is why you keep using it and talking about it as if it has an agenda.
The machine cannot lie. It does not have the ability to lie. It is a falsehood machine.
what if google tells lies through the machine and you’re just really hyper focused on whether or not i think it has agency to lie for itself except that that doesn’t matter and the way it’s programmed to respond will inevitably result in lies due to corporate interests and propaganda, and you’re actually just being a huge nerd at me right now for no reason
And what if you are being a rube and falling for the very propaganda you supposedly oppose by rhetorically buying into the very framework that the tech companies are selling you?
Yeah, no shit, THEY are lying and they lie through the machine. But that makes a printing press a “lying machine”. That makes any computer a “lying machine”. A speaker a “lying machine”. A pen a “lying instrument”. That isn’t how transitive properties work and you are being extremely obstinate about this for no reason other than (And this is where I am making some real stab in the dark assumptions, for which I am sorry if they are off base) that you like the aesthetic phrasing because it makes this machine feel more real and like you are actually talking to something that you can ‘argue’ with about ‘lying’.
This conversation is starting to go in circles though, so this will be my last reply on the matter and I will try not to bring it up in the future.
Oh my fucking god, you are so fucked to death wrong but okay persist in believing i think this thing thinks because I call it the fucking lying machine. Fuck off!
I hadn’t thought of it this way so I’m sorry if you feel like the questioning is misplaced. Not trying to shame you, by the way, just noticed how often you seem to cite the LLM and wanted to check in.
Maybe that sounds weirdly paternalistic my bad
No you’re fine and I don’t feel like you’ve done anything wrong asking this, it’s something that’s just especially on my mind because i’ve annoyed my partner with this
Oh good. I’m bad at conveying tone over text, unlike everyone else one earth [/s]