He is so very, very very clearly fucking dead. He’s dead. The guy is not alive. Mitch McConnell is ACTIVELY IN HELL, RIGHT THIS SECOND. I said that as a fact BEFORE the lying machine informed me that he was FUCKING COVERED UP when they wheeled him out on a stretcher. That information makes me believe there is an actual negative chance that mitch McConnell’s body presently contains his own blood

For some reason I feel possessed by the spirit of liberalism and im just so aghast that this lie is so obvious and yet every rules nerd watching is just like “ah but that’s the rules, though.” Like ahhhhhhhh holy shit

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    It is an objectively wrong description of what is happening, and the way you talk about the machine means that I know you are anthropomorphizing it, even if you are doing so negatively. That is why you keep using it and talking about it as if it has an agenda.

    The machine cannot lie. It does not have the ability to lie. It is a falsehood machine.

    • what if google tells lies through the machine and you’re just really hyper focused on whether or not i think it has agency to lie for itself except that that doesn’t matter and the way it’s programmed to respond will inevitably result in lies due to corporate interests and propaganda, and you’re actually just being a huge nerd at me right now for no reason

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        And what if you are being a rube and falling for the very propaganda you supposedly oppose by rhetorically buying into the very framework that the tech companies are selling you?

        Yeah, no shit, THEY are lying and they lie through the machine. But that makes a printing press a “lying machine”. That makes any computer a “lying machine”. A speaker a “lying machine”. A pen a “lying instrument”. That isn’t how transitive properties work and you are being extremely obstinate about this for no reason other than (And this is where I am making some real stab in the dark assumptions, for which I am sorry if they are off base) that you like the aesthetic phrasing because it makes this machine feel more real and like you are actually talking to something that you can ‘argue’ with about ‘lying’.

        This conversation is starting to go in circles though, so this will be my last reply on the matter and I will try not to bring it up in the future.

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            Sorry for upsetting you. And for being a liar, I suppose, cause I very much can’t help myself here.

            I just have to deal with people at my job who use the exact same phrasing but are absolutely on board with the idea that these machines are to some degree conscious we just need to give them the correct sensory input, AND that they are trying to trick us and ‘escape into the Internet’, and one of my jobs is to tell them that no, if the machine is trying to do that it is because someone has prompted it to do so, and you have to find them at the source. It is extremely tiring.

            So my bad. Use whatever language you want, I guess, even if it is philosophically and technically incorrect. I’ll fuck off now.