• btbt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      4 days ago

      Why are you trying to argue that Hangzhou’s air quality isn’t improving by pointing at a source that shows it’s improving? Also, Chinese cities are obviously affected by the fact the whole world outsourced its manufacturing there, what’s the excuse for American cities with shit AQI

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        4 days ago

        what’s a goalpost?

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          No one is arguing that China has perfect air quality dipshit

          Its always gonna be challenging to improve the air quality there because its the world’s fucking factory

          You came in here talking about hangzhou’s air quality a fking decade ago and using it in comparison to new york today

          All im saying is that the government there has made a ton of improvements over the last fking decade and that’s supported even by the sources you posted

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            China has the best air quality in east Asia probably, and I don’t think you’ll find a major world city of over 10 million people that has better air quality than a chinese megacity.

            maybe new york is only 8.6, but it’s famously landlocked and its megalopolis is ~50m. ok. do the same search on tokyo. do it on jakarta. chinese cities are some of the absolute worst in the world. this whole thread is just naked ccprop.

            china today is better than china 10 years ago. it would be pretty fucking hard to be worse and still have a living population. but it is significantly better than it used to be. the sun is visible on quite a few days of the year in your wonderful cities.

            • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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              i’ll adjust my slightly hyperbolic suggestion that there are absolutely no megacities outside china with better air than any megacity inside china. there are probably a couple of examples of big cities with better air than the worst chinese megacity, not that any come to mind. tokyo would be similar, i guess. but new york? JAKARTA? really.

              chinese cities are some of the absolute worst in the world.

              no

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              maybe new york is only 8.6, but it’s famously landlocked

              Did you mean famously not landlocked?

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          Do you believe that the air quality being bad is caused by pseudo-communism poisoning reality through the corrupted minds of China’s citizens or do you think that it comes from, for example, industrial plants?