I guess it’s time to leave Ubuntu as a new user and switch to a new distro. Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Mint were my choice, but their base, Ubuntu, is becoming “bloated”, and turning to a latest computers’ OS. And I think it will affect its derivatives. Which distro would you suggest to switch to. I aint rich. I’m already aware of Fedora and its xfce, kde spins, Opensuse Leap and Tumbleweed, Debian and its derivatives, and Void. Are you planning to switch too.
I hate when people here complain of “bloat” since often it just means “there’s this one thing I don’t use and it irrationally offends me by its existence”.
You can uninstall just about anything you don’t want. So very much not like Windows in that regard.
Are you running out of space? Out of memory? Or simply offended that some functionality you don’t like exists?
You’ll be fine with Mint. Even the Ubuntu based one. Just keep a separated partition for /home, then jumping ship to LMDE becomes trivial.
Give us some examples of boats. My laptop runs Ubuntu 24.04, and it has been running smoothly, using only 1.2 GB of RAM after booting.
Catamaran, schooner, big ole pirate ship, ferry boat, fishing boat
… What?
He just can’t understand little typos :)
That was obviously a joke though, and it wasn’t even OP.
Very clever. Seems like a typical Ubuntu hater ;)
So the bloat is on the disk, ISO file size, not on ram or performance or something?
The ISO is big because it contains programs that you can install only if you choose to during the installation process. You can opt for a minimal installation.
Ok, I see, thanks for the info, man. That’s very helpful.
The number one culprit of undesirable cornering behavior is incorrect tire pressure.
Linux Mint is generally less bloated than Ubuntu. For instance, is comes without snap (at least it used to. I’m not aware if things changed). If you want to discard Ubuntu totally, there is Mint Debian Edition. That’s it. You don’t want the struggle with getting used to fundamentally different distros like OpenSUSE or Fedora. Trust me.
Can you give some examples of the bloat?
GNOME desktop and background processes others distros don’t have?
Classifying gnome as bloat is a good one :D
When I first switched to Linux 18 months ago everyone raved that mint is the easiest most user friendly windows like operating system and I would be best of using that one.
I hated mint, and having now done 12ish total Linux installs I have enjoyed everything else I have used significantly more. Anything running kde plasma seems to actually be the most windows like for new users, best I can tell.
it’s not like i can’t do a distro without plasma, i just refuse to xD
When I started using Linux i knew that i didn’t want Gnome for it’s style so i went with a distro with KDE. I’ve since tried using WM’s or other DE’s but always fall back to Plasma. Best desktop I’ve used in 30 years and i barely change the defaults 🤷
Its funny, I hated plasma on kubuntu. Felt slow and seemed like constant bugs. But on Bazzite, now Cachy, its amazing.
You can use Linux Mint Debian Edition instead
CachyOS is what Mint thinks it is, and could be if they didn’t go the debian route. It’s practically as easy as Mint, infinitely more performant, and likely runs whatever you want (though switching to appimage packages instead of deb packages for random internet software does indeed feel worse.)
People were moaning about bloating with Breezy Badger back in 2005. And yet…
I understand why people choose to leave Ubuntu and of course am OK with it. I for example don’t like Snaps, too.
I have been visiting and leaving Ubuntu for 15 years and now I’m back again (coming from years of Fedora).
I wouldn’t say it’s more bloated, nor does it require more resources. But I prefer the adapted Gnome version where you can minimize windows and everything is a little less hassle (in my case configuring the printer).
In your case, I’d try out Fedora. Its installation is quite minimal.
I have little love for Canonical, but I wouldn’t go that far. What makes an OS ‘the Windows’ of something is in my eyes the heaps of useless surveillance, which ubuntu lacks.
I’ve been using opensuse tumbleweed for quite some time on my systems, and been pretty happy with it, in case you need an endorsement.
Debian (sic Armbian, Dietpi) user here. I don’t have this problem.
I find that straight Debian takes a bit more work to get to daily driver territory than some other distros, but I do like the balance of Linux Mint Debian Edition. Plus, I had a weirdo problem with LMDE once, and Clem actually responded himself with a fix, so thumbs up there!
I think a lot of the hate is snaps. Ubuntu has pushed a technology on the users that is unpopular before (Unity) and largely ignored the criticism, which is a Windows-like behavior. I can attest that snaps really sucked on old hardware when they first rolled out. I haven’t really used Ubuntu since 22.04, so I can’t comment on the current state of snaps, other than to say that a buddy swears they are way faster now. It’s a rock and a hard place situation for Canonical though, because if Firefox from apt crashes, Ubuntu gets hate, not Firefox.
I think I switched to a Mint daily driver after that horrible Unity came out. It was soooo bad.
Anyways, Canonical did some.bad shit around 2011 or so. I can’t remember what it was now that there are many orgs that I’ve banned from my life for privacy issues, fascist support, etc. I’ve avoided them since. Back then I was using Mint with MATE and no issues. If Canonical was affiliated back then, I must have been oblivious while using Mint.
I hope I never see a snap again. Maybe they are better now than last time I have to deal with one, but why when we have flatpaks and appimages? Why do they suck so much?
You only noticed recently?
Yes, just recently, as a new user.
