I personally do, he actually risked his life to release information about the government spying on people. And there are for sure more advanced ways now. Even your phone is listening.

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    I struggle with it. I know he needs an international ally to protect him, but running to Russia and having nothing to say about their bullshit comes across sour to me. I’m thankful, at least, for the information he provided.

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      He applied for asylum in dozens of other countries, but all of their leaders received threatening direct phonecalls from then vice president Biden. Putin was the only one who didn’t cave to American pressure, so Snowden had no choice but to stay in Russia

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      He didn’t run to Russia.

      He had a layover in Russia to Latin America, and then the US canceled his passport.

      The US trapped him in Russia.

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        That seems odd to me.

        He was working in Hawaii so he takes a layover in Russia??

        Something doesn’t smell right, even with how weird layovers can be.

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          He was in Hong Kong, selected because it wouldn’t raise any flags and he could hide.

          Then he got help from some lawyers in WikiLeaks that tried to get him asylum in Latin America, so he had to get a layover in a country without an extradition treaty. That flight took him to Russia, but the US prevented him from catching the next plane because they canceled his passport and trapped him there.

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          do you know nothing of the incident. He was in asia for awhile and was trapped in russia because orgininally he did have a european destination but it became clear that was likely to get him extridated so it changed to south america. Granted the person you replying to calling it a layover to latin america was representing it kinda wierd so im thinking he may have limited recall on it. He was in hon kong for awhile.

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            Ah, I didn’t realize those were the circumstances — I assumed it was from wherever he was working at the time (I thought it was Hawaii but I could be wrong).

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              yeah I have no idea where he was working or was before hong kong. pretty much when it hit the news it was even guesswork of where he was but I know he was working with a group that moved him from home to home of trusted people.

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      Snowden had applied for asylum in Ecuador, he went to Russia for connecting flights to Latin America.

      He couldn’t leave. Even the Bolivian presidential plane had to land in Austria after false rumors circulated that Snowden was aboard the aircraft.

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      Where do you propose he should’ve gone instead?
      Some protection from CIA/NSA should be available at that place.

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        …its been their game the whole time

        The U.S. took his passport away as he was in transit, right when that happened (literally blame your own gov’t for this, it wasn’t his decision) he was getting a connecting flight in Russia. He’s since stayed there.

        Crazy that you…think that Russia, what, had control of the American gov’t and got them to revoke his passport mid-flight? Is that what you’re getting at?