In a different context: EDIT: And not
Related to the main point of the post.
The nazis did have cool uniforms and i think there is something super woke and punk about wearing a version of one where all the symbols are defiled or replaced.
There is a certain something in denying fascist the power to claim an outfit or even such ancient symbol, and liberating fashion. But especially symbolism is easily misunderstood. You need very obvious irony or anti symbolism to pull it off.
I think making marginalised people around you not have to get close enough to check out your emblems before they get the fuck out of your vicinity is orders of magnitude more important than “reclaiming” “cool” uniforms that were never yours to claim in the first place unless you’re a Nazi yourself, and aren’t really cool at all unless you’re in to authoritarianism (and if that’s your kink, whatever, but you don’t get to inflict fear on to non consenting participants with it).
There are plenty of other uniform like cloths for you to wear, deliberately making yourself look like a Nazi isn’t doing positive shit for anyone.
I am not saying i want to don a nazi cosplay, and i did express that in reality this is complicated.
Its more the principle of “i cannot do this” even if i have non offensive intentions, because if i do people will associate it with the bad intentions.
To me this leaves a dirty feeling of them having a super minor grip over creative choices.
Admittedly a lot of this is coming from a core memory of mine where a very young and innocent artistic child had to come to terms that i am not allowed to draw the
momentum of windmills.
I love geometry a lot more then i like uniforms, but the same philosophical pattern applies.
A vast misinterpretation on your terms. I am sorry to say.
I can asure you my genuine outfit is as neutral and boring as it gets. Neither did i obtain a career where i can make geometric art for public display.
If you read my words a bit better you may realize i am expressing the concept and a power struggle, rather then actual action.
From my point of view you are, without intending to do so ,empowering and legitimizing a oppressive ideology.
That is incorrect. The SS uniform mentioned in the third panel means their comment has something to do with this thread.
It may not be the main point, but it is something.
I saw a guy wearing an SS uniform but the armband was a rainbow and the SS insignias were all 2 dildos arranged in a 69 pattern once. Probably some more details but that’s what I remember after all these years
This was at a gay pride parade before it was federally legalized here and if I recall right he said it was a joke on how many people thought he gay agenda was coming for them
In a different context: EDIT: And not Related to the main point of the post.
The nazis did have cool uniforms and i think there is something super woke and punk about wearing a version of one where all the symbols are defiled or replaced.
There is a certain something in denying fascist the power to claim an outfit or even such ancient symbol, and liberating fashion. But especially symbolism is easily misunderstood. You need very obvious irony or anti symbolism to pull it off.
Idk, I liked the Black Panther uniforms better.
I think making marginalised people around you not have to get close enough to check out your emblems before they get the fuck out of your vicinity is orders of magnitude more important than “reclaiming” “cool” uniforms that were never yours to claim in the first place unless you’re a Nazi yourself, and aren’t really cool at all unless you’re in to authoritarianism (and if that’s your kink, whatever, but you don’t get to inflict fear on to non consenting participants with it).
There are plenty of other uniform like cloths for you to wear, deliberately making yourself look like a Nazi isn’t doing positive shit for anyone.
I am not saying i want to don a nazi cosplay, and i did express that in reality this is complicated.
Its more the principle of “i cannot do this” even if i have non offensive intentions, because if i do people will associate it with the bad intentions.
To me this leaves a dirty feeling of them having a super minor grip over creative choices.
Admittedly a lot of this is coming from a core memory of mine where a very young and innocent artistic child had to come to terms that i am not allowed to draw the momentum of windmills.
I love geometry a lot more then i like uniforms, but the same philosophical pattern applies.
That’s a lot of words to say you care more about “aesthetic” than you do about the people around you feeling safe.
I do not.
A vast misinterpretation on your terms. I am sorry to say.
I can asure you my genuine outfit is as neutral and boring as it gets. Neither did i obtain a career where i can make geometric art for public display.
If you read my words a bit better you may realize i am expressing the concept and a power struggle, rather then actual action.
From my point of view you are, without intending to do so ,empowering and legitimizing a oppressive ideology.
A lot of words for nazi fetish.
You appear very butthurt that I suggest defiling nazi symbolism and appropriating the tools they are using to express their ideology.
At this point people who claim to not understand what i said are unwilling to actually read or no longer acting in good faith.
If that is not the case then please reflect that as a antifascist i have no reason to start a fight with you.
Leftist fighting only serves the right.
Just buy a Hugo Boss suit circa 1930s. That’s who designed the nazi uniforms.
wrong place bub.
I’m all for reclaiming the toothbrush mustache but this has nothing to do with this thread.
That is incorrect. The SS uniform mentioned in the third panel means their comment has something to do with this thread. It may not be the main point, but it is something.
That’s actually a very cool idea.
Do a proper SS leather jacket but with a defiled swastika all over the back (so no one can mistake it) and reclaim it?
I’d probably not use the red band.
And would this become problematic in a decade when the jackets get normalised and mainstream (probably without the punk defiling)?
It’s been done before
I saw a guy wearing an SS uniform but the armband was a rainbow and the SS insignias were all 2 dildos arranged in a 69 pattern once. Probably some more details but that’s what I remember after all these years
This was at a gay pride parade before it was federally legalized here and if I recall right he said it was a joke on how many people thought he gay agenda was coming for them
Dude looked good
Some things are forever ruined and that uniform and the swastika are sadly among them, at least in the West.