Whenever I try to talk politics (or ESPECIALLY world events) with Liberals, as soon as they determine that I am a leftist, they just get so fucking smug and have this sense of self-superiority about them. Exactly zero interest in having a good faith discussion. They are so incredibly dismissive and condescending.

Of course, no matter how much evidence that you provide, or how well you frame your arguments, you just get eye rolls and dismissed out of hand.

I am reminded of the Bernie campaigns when the liberal media pundits would behave with nothing more than sneering contempt at young people who just wanted fucking health care.

We know that they’re like this BUT WHY? Why are they all such smug shit stains? I stg it’s like their defining trait.

    • QuietCupcake [any, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Absolutely! There are selective forces working on the broader systems themselves. Neoliberal capitalism isnt just the structure that imposes a selection process on individual humans, it is itself also subject to the material circumstances of the entire world which puts selective pressures on economic systems. From geopolitical forces (China’s model being obviously more “fit” to survive and even pass on its “genes” in the form of being a model that other nations can emulate) to, like you said, running up against the literal limits of a finite planet when capitalism demands infinite growth to sustain itself. As everyone here of course knows, these are some of the many examples of the contradictions inherent within capitalism, but I think using a Darwinian lens along with the Marxist one often works pretty well to frame how a lot of these things work.