If all the money ends up in hands of billionaires and their corporations and there will be no money in hands of regular plebs…
Who do you think will have to pay the taxes? Also, the people would figure out a different way of trading or currency. And with that one getting taxed, all the billionaire’s money become worthless.

  • Carrotwurst@programming.dev
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    8 days ago

    The “plebs” will develop a new currency of their own. And by this I basically mean anything from bottle caps to IOU notes etc. Monopoly money, whatever. Arguably they could use something actually valuable too but using an IOU-type thing kinda secures it against theft. Point is that it starts with small communities with some degree of trust of course. Alternatively, trade work for food and goods - but we’re primed to use money so I think we’re likely to just create a new currency since we already know it’s simpler to just trade 5 bottle caps for a carrot than it is to wash dishes for… oh i dunno, 3 carrots or whatever.

    This kinda is what we should be getting to do anyway at this point. The 1% should be regarded as a force of nature at this point. You can’t win against them anymore you can win against a volcano. Best you can do is work around them (instead of trying to beat them at their own game which they are constantly rigging in their favor anyway).

    Money itself only has as much value as we give it.

      • netvor@lemmy.world
        3·
        8 days ago

        that’s the wet dream, fictional version of crypto.

        that’s the idea that made me excited about crypto 15 years ago. (stupid young 31 old me 👶 )

        • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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          8 days ago

          Oh yeah, it’s stupid. But so is the idea of non-governmental currency having any sort of real or consistent value. Every exchange type that we come up with is subject to the same problems as crypto. Crypto just got there faster

          • Carrotwurst@programming.dev
            1·
            7 days ago

            Nothing has real or consistent value. Value is entirely human constructed. That’s exactly why again: in small trusted communities, you can easily develop your own currency or a work-trade system. The only thing stopping people is their desire for the “universal money” that they consistently overvalue (which creates a feedback loop - everyone wants money because everyone wants money). But the thing is few people actually want money itself, they just want what they think money will get them. In communities you can (and should) exchange goods and services for other goods and services instead (again, requiring mutual trust). My proposition isn’t outlandish either, economists etc. have talked about it too.

            https://www.ijccr.net/article/view/9504/9190

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subjective_theory_of_value

            I see this as a sort of a mandala actually. “THE MONEY” has expanded so much that it has little contact with the center - the people - anymore. It’s become more of a force of nature that we’ve lost control of on the level of the individual. Yes it provides limited structures but not enough to support. The solution is to start something new at the center, instead of pining after something that’s way out of reach at the outskirts (and eventually this new thing will also expand beyond the reach of the individual, prompting another new start and so on).