I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism. If you left out the “in the same way” as well.
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest yet they are spending their influence in atacking the left pull of their base. and Hasan is the attackable face of this pressure, as oppose to doing their fucking job in fighting tyranny.
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
it is clear that democrats want the same things as republicans, but are not as brazen. they don’t want to interface with a youtuber, cool, fine, whatever, i don’t really care.
but they ignore the progressive pull at their own peril. it is already proved that they no longer have the leverage to demand a conservative democrat as a candidate and actually win elections.
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
By what metric? Sounds like you’re just mad that Democrats rightfully don’t want to include someone in their movement who’s core ideology is completely incompatible.
Hasan is a socialist at random. He’s utterly philosophically illiterate, so his positions are a flip of the coin. You might say, “fine, let’s use that,” and I agree - as long as you don’t lose sight of the fact that he’s a narcissistic grifter.
In all seriousness, you can’t entrust political significance to character-deficient, uneducated dingdongs with no commitment to reality.
I watched Hassan become famous and his dishonest narcissistic imbecility is about the only consistent feature of his character. The cult of celebrity has its hooks in you.
I watch his streams pretty regularly and he’s extremely consistent. I’d say he’s honest and direct about his opinions to a fault, even. He has a LOT of haters who tend to be a bit… obsessive, to put it charitably.
Sometimes I do wish that my world were small enough to exclude knowledge about Hasan, or about the worms that burrow into children’s eyeballs, or the genocides of history, or any other kinds of evil.
Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
TL:DR; Please don’t be angry and don’t go full Trump supporter on me and ignore all of this cause you don’t believe that it’s true. Help me see the truth. If you did see these collar pics then tell me what is it I’m not seeing myself that proves it’s a vibration only collar and not a shock one without prongs? Tell me and I’ll listen. Please, just refute the hard evidence. I WANT to believe you.
If you still need a reason for me to care so much: Autism.
The video of the incident looks like what people says that happened, looks like he reached his hand somewhere (supposedly the remote) and Kaya complains. It could be a coincidence of course, and it doesn’t help that Hasan doesn’t show the collar immediately after (although understandable, not a realistic demand since he has no reasons, it would be great if he did but in the video you linked there didn’t seem to be anyone accusing Hasan from shocking Kaya, looks like that came later). Because of this we can only speculate.
The debunk video doesn’t debunk anything, he acknowledges that people are looking at his supposedly vibration only collar but he doesn’t acknowledge exactly WHY they’re doing it (aside from right grifter assholes wanting to smear him), he doesn’t actually stop and debunk it. The reason people points at the collar is because it looks just like the vibration version without the prongs. He missed an unrealistic opportunity to proof himself when he did not show the collar when it happened (again, understandable), and he lost a very realistic opportunity in this debunk video by not showing it again but in more detail to prove it’s not a shock version. I mean, he doesn’t call it “modded shock into vibration only collar”, he claims that’s just a vibration collar, nothing else. I can’t stress enough how bad it is that he doesn’t show the collar in more detail, if he wanted to end all of this he would’ve just zoomed the fuck into it and shut everyone up, It’s easier to believe that he’s hiding something that believing he is dumb. It is very suspicious. You can always say he was nervous but he’s probably got plenty of time to plan the debunk.
(This is only speculation you can skip this paragraph)
In the video he also claims that Kaya hurt herself. That implies she has a vibration collar on but he didn’t use it, so he can’t really go “I used a collar but it only vibrates” since that would mean he lied, and if he lies then how is anyone supposed to trust him? If he did we’d be in a “alt right moving goalposts” like situation.
I don’t need to see the one loving his dog. I mean “He loves Kaya” is sadly not a valid proof that he didn’t shock her unlike actual pictures of the collar, and three things can be true at the same time:
He loves Kaya;
He shocked Kaya;
Stinky (literally) Asmnogold-like people are using it as an excuse to shit on him and exaggerate on what happened.
And the best way to judge a situation is by keeping it cool. Getting to know Hasan better is sadly not a good way of thinking things calmly and subjectively the same way falling into the ragebait shit right wing grifters upload would not be ideal.
But I’m not here to judge if Hasan is a dog abuser, I’m here ONLY to judge if he shocked her, for my own sanity, because I’m seeing all this evidence pointing out he did it yet people don’t seem to acknowledge it, similar to how right wing nutjobs won’t understand cheeto man is a pedofile rapist despite all of the evidence, it’s like they can’t see the evidence or maybe they do and they don’t care because “the left only wants to shit on him”. The equivalent in this situation would be Hasan fans not caring Kaya got shocked because “the right only wants to shit on him” (which is true, but that doesn’t justify not calling him out on what he did IF he did it), don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT saying shocking a dog so it doesn’t move is on the same level of a super mega pedophile ring, and justifying the former is much, MUCH better than the latter, I’m just trying to get the point across that Trump’s fans will either justify whatever he does or blindly believe everything he says because they’re out of touch fanatics. Maybe they genuinely believe he didn’t diddle the kiddlers. Maybe they just don’t bother to either look at it or to exist in the same reality we do, probably because they like the guy. I don’t want to believe Hasan fans are on the same realm of ignoring reality and evidence because “I like him he would never”. This whole situation feels the same to me. Look at that debunk video, it proofs my point, Hasan glares over the issue and explains people hating him is making stuff up to hate on him, but he never addresses the actual stuff being said on the videos which only makes me think he can’t and only hopes his fans will blindly defend him, then you go and link it as if it does prove something.
But lets give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he uses a modded shock collar so it only shakes. Why not say that?
What if he just has a vibration collar that looks EXACTLY like the shock one? Like a knock off or something. Just show the model online, and again, the collar itself closely.
If you read this far, please. I IMPLORE you to look at the videos of the people comparing the pictures on his streams showing the collar with the images on the collars site I linked, don’t just assume that you won’t get anything from it like a Trump supporter wouldn’t look at the Epstein files. Yes, these people probably don’t give a flying FUCK about Kaya, but that’s beyond the point here, the point is if he shocked her. The pics with the collar he showed make it clear (at least to me) it’s then shock version without prongs. They can’t be fake cause they’re taken from his stream and Hasan doesn’t even claim them to be fake, he just doesn’t claim anything, the only thing preventing you from looking at and comparing them would be blind trust.
All I want you to do is compare the collar Hasan shows with the pictures of the collars on the websites and tell me why that is not a shock version with prongs removed. If you don’t want to do it cause you think Hasan is innocent, think of all the alt right nutjobs that won’t look at the Epstein files because Trump is “innocent” so there’s no point (not saying shocking a dog is as bad as mass child rape, just pointing out how fanaticism clouds people’s judgement). Keep your mind open and I will keep mine, but refute the hard evidence, refute it. Don’t change the subject or say things like “Nu uh he loves Kaya”, that’s not evidence, neither is “I like him he would never”.
Here’s a video from a professional dog trainer, who claims he didn’t know Hasan prior, analyzing the incident and the device. He concluded that it wasn’t a shock- but a vibration-collar (or used as such). He did not see any misconduct from Hasan. I read somewhere the trainer was massively harassed after the video.
Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
Hey, nice copy-pasta.
I don’t care for your argument of authority.
That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours.
In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine.
His worship of China.
Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar.
Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
He has consistently stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wrong and is an imperialist endeavor. I haven’t heard him say a good word about Russia or Putin
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen.
(I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
I mean, if you ignore the constant advocacy he does for rank and file workers and unions, alongside his repeated acknowledgement of his privilege, this would be a legitimate criticism. If you left out the “in the same way” as well.
I keep saying that actual literacy is a required prerequisite to media literacy… pretty scary how many people functionally can’t read these days.
Who is he?
Hasan Piker, a left wing political commentator on the internet, who’s popular among the 18-35 set
under attack by his closest aligning party, because he is threatening right wing democrats position, and gamesmanship of the vote
Are you implying Hasan is aligned in any way with the Democrats?
no, i am implying that of the two parties, the democrats are the closest yet they are spending their influence in atacking the left pull of their base. and Hasan is the attackable face of this pressure, as oppose to doing their fucking job in fighting tyranny.
So what? They’re still extremely far away and their ideology (Liberalism) is completely incompatible with Hasan’s (Marxist-Leninism).
There is 0 incentive for Democrats to include someone like Hasan in their coalition.
ok?
so what?
again, they are spending more effort into attacking someone who is a representative of the left pull of the democratic base.
instead of doing their fucking job.
it is clear that democrats want the same things as republicans, but are not as brazen. they don’t want to interface with a youtuber, cool, fine, whatever, i don’t really care.
but they ignore the progressive pull at their own peril. it is already proved that they no longer have the leverage to demand a conservative democrat as a candidate and actually win elections.
By what metric? Sounds like you’re just mad that Democrats rightfully don’t want to include someone in their movement who’s core ideology is completely incompatible.
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Performative politics is all the rage.
Hasan is a socialist at random. He’s utterly philosophically illiterate, so his positions are a flip of the coin. You might say, “fine, let’s use that,” and I agree - as long as you don’t lose sight of the fact that he’s a narcissistic grifter.
In all seriousness, you can’t entrust political significance to character-deficient, uneducated dingdongs with no commitment to reality.
Wow it’s almost like it’s impossible to have 100% consistency across 12 hours a day of talking…
I watched Hassan become famous and his dishonest narcissistic imbecility is about the only consistent feature of his character. The cult of celebrity has its hooks in you.
Is there some in depth (3000 word+) article about this? I’ve literally never seen him be dishonest about stuff. I don’t watch him that much.
I watch his streams pretty regularly and he’s extremely consistent. I’d say he’s honest and direct about his opinions to a fault, even. He has a LOT of haters who tend to be a bit… obsessive, to put it charitably.
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No idea. I could write a lot about Hassan, but it’s not worth my time and it’s faster to relegate his fans to Trump supporter status.
I’m not denying that he sometimes utters the correct sentiments, but he has no principles. I’d consider him basically soulless.
Do you have such a small world view that hasan fans integer underflow to trump supporter?
Sometimes I do wish that my world were small enough to exclude knowledge about Hasan, or about the worms that burrow into children’s eyeballs, or the genocides of history, or any other kinds of evil.
You are completely full of shit
Coming from a guy that can’t even spell his name right, smh.
That’s such a good point.
He’s consistenty a fucking tool in certain opinions and continues to double-down on the worst takes. Also an animal abuser.
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Hey, I won’t deny right wing grifters will do shady shit to get a left streamer down and that the whole thing is a campaign against him, I want to make clear I’m not one of them, I’m a mere spectator who’s never seen Hassan aside from this drama, so I will ask IN GOOD FAITH because I’m having a hard time wrapping my mind around this so please have some patience.
When the whole collar thing happened there were various clues pointing the collar was a shock one with tape on where the prongs were. There was also a stream in which the controller of either the vibration or shock collar showed up on a table (sorry for not providing links but I’m tired right now, I’ll trust you’ve seen the clips I’m talking about), then there was another clip in which the dog’s collar emitted a light, people argued it was a reflection but reflections don’t stay for multiple frames like that without completely freezing the dog (as far as I know). Then on the pictures we see the collar having a screw only the shock version has.
Shock: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-educator-et-300 Vibration: https://www.electro-collares.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300 https://www.reedog.es/collares-de-adiestramiento/e-collar-pg-300
I would post the pictures myself but I can’t, if you think I’m making shit up I’ll do it but for now I’ll count on you having seen this evidence.
My point is, if Hassan had shown the collar the dog had during the stream none of this discussion would exist, but by be pictures It totally looks like he tried to lie people pretending he was not using a shocking collar, and if that is the case I’m not trusting a person who lies their public like that. If you insist he didn’t then tell me where I’m wrong. Are the pictures fake or edited? Is the collar model different from the ones shown? Is there a fallacy in my logic? etc. From my point of view no one seemed to acknowledge the evidence pictures back then.
Also, there was a lot of goal-posting when defending Hassan while some said he never shocked the dog, some said they did but it didn’t matter. From the point of view of an outsider It looks like fans defending questionable actions from their fav streamer. You can tell me that the dog doesn’t act like they’re being abused and I’ll believe you, but beyond that the point remains. Did Hassan actually shock the dog then lie about it? Trust and transparency is important for me when it comes to judge a stranger.
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TL:DR; Please don’t be angry and don’t go full Trump supporter on me and ignore all of this cause you don’t believe that it’s true. Help me see the truth. If you did see these collar pics then tell me what is it I’m not seeing myself that proves it’s a vibration only collar and not a shock one without prongs? Tell me and I’ll listen. Please, just refute the hard evidence. I WANT to believe you.
If you still need a reason for me to care so much: Autism.
The video of the incident looks like what people says that happened, looks like he reached his hand somewhere (supposedly the remote) and Kaya complains. It could be a coincidence of course, and it doesn’t help that Hasan doesn’t show the collar immediately after (although understandable, not a realistic demand since he has no reasons, it would be great if he did but in the video you linked there didn’t seem to be anyone accusing Hasan from shocking Kaya, looks like that came later). Because of this we can only speculate.
The debunk video doesn’t debunk anything, he acknowledges that people are looking at his supposedly vibration only collar but he doesn’t acknowledge exactly WHY they’re doing it (aside from right grifter assholes wanting to smear him), he doesn’t actually stop and debunk it. The reason people points at the collar is because it looks just like the vibration version without the prongs. He missed an unrealistic opportunity to proof himself when he did not show the collar when it happened (again, understandable), and he lost a very realistic opportunity in this debunk video by not showing it again but in more detail to prove it’s not a shock version. I mean, he doesn’t call it “modded shock into vibration only collar”, he claims that’s just a vibration collar, nothing else. I can’t stress enough how bad it is that he doesn’t show the collar in more detail, if he wanted to end all of this he would’ve just zoomed the fuck into it and shut everyone up, It’s easier to believe that he’s hiding something that believing he is dumb. It is very suspicious. You can always say he was nervous but he’s probably got plenty of time to plan the debunk.
(This is only speculation you can skip this paragraph) In the video he also claims that Kaya hurt herself. That implies she has a vibration collar on but he didn’t use it, so he can’t really go “I used a collar but it only vibrates” since that would mean he lied, and if he lies then how is anyone supposed to trust him? If he did we’d be in a “alt right moving goalposts” like situation.
I don’t need to see the one loving his dog. I mean “He loves Kaya” is sadly not a valid proof that he didn’t shock her unlike actual pictures of the collar, and three things can be true at the same time:
And the best way to judge a situation is by keeping it cool. Getting to know Hasan better is sadly not a good way of thinking things calmly and subjectively the same way falling into the ragebait shit right wing grifters upload would not be ideal.
But I’m not here to judge if Hasan is a dog abuser, I’m here ONLY to judge if he shocked her, for my own sanity, because I’m seeing all this evidence pointing out he did it yet people don’t seem to acknowledge it, similar to how right wing nutjobs won’t understand cheeto man is a pedofile rapist despite all of the evidence, it’s like they can’t see the evidence or maybe they do and they don’t care because “the left only wants to shit on him”. The equivalent in this situation would be Hasan fans not caring Kaya got shocked because “the right only wants to shit on him” (which is true, but that doesn’t justify not calling him out on what he did IF he did it), don’t get me wrong, I’m NOT saying shocking a dog so it doesn’t move is on the same level of a super mega pedophile ring, and justifying the former is much, MUCH better than the latter, I’m just trying to get the point across that Trump’s fans will either justify whatever he does or blindly believe everything he says because they’re out of touch fanatics. Maybe they genuinely believe he didn’t diddle the kiddlers. Maybe they just don’t bother to either look at it or to exist in the same reality we do, probably because they like the guy. I don’t want to believe Hasan fans are on the same realm of ignoring reality and evidence because “I like him he would never”. This whole situation feels the same to me. Look at that debunk video, it proofs my point, Hasan glares over the issue and explains people hating him is making stuff up to hate on him, but he never addresses the actual stuff being said on the videos which only makes me think he can’t and only hopes his fans will blindly defend him, then you go and link it as if it does prove something.
But lets give him the benefit of the doubt, what if he uses a modded shock collar so it only shakes. Why not say that? What if he just has a vibration collar that looks EXACTLY like the shock one? Like a knock off or something. Just show the model online, and again, the collar itself closely.
If you read this far, please. I IMPLORE you to look at the videos of the people comparing the pictures on his streams showing the collar with the images on the collars site I linked, don’t just assume that you won’t get anything from it like a Trump supporter wouldn’t look at the Epstein files. Yes, these people probably don’t give a flying FUCK about Kaya, but that’s beyond the point here, the point is if he shocked her. The pics with the collar he showed make it clear (at least to me) it’s then shock version without prongs. They can’t be fake cause they’re taken from his stream and Hasan doesn’t even claim them to be fake, he just doesn’t claim anything, the only thing preventing you from looking at and comparing them would be blind trust.
All I want you to do is compare the collar Hasan shows with the pictures of the collars on the websites and tell me why that is not a shock version with prongs removed. If you don’t want to do it cause you think Hasan is innocent, think of all the alt right nutjobs that won’t look at the Epstein files because Trump is “innocent” so there’s no point (not saying shocking a dog is as bad as mass child rape, just pointing out how fanaticism clouds people’s judgement). Keep your mind open and I will keep mine, but refute the hard evidence, refute it. Don’t change the subject or say things like “Nu uh he loves Kaya”, that’s not evidence, neither is “I like him he would never”.
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Here’s a video from a professional dog trainer, who claims he didn’t know Hasan prior, analyzing the incident and the device. He concluded that it wasn’t a shock- but a vibration-collar (or used as such). He did not see any misconduct from Hasan. I read somewhere the trainer was massively harassed after the video.
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Also nice cherry pick. Gee, I wonder why you didn’t go with something more recent…
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Oops, guess we know why you chose something from a year ago instead of this…
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Lmaooooo your proof that Hasan didn’t shock his dog is a Hasan video??
That plus the “sex pest” line shows just how deep you are in Hasan’s ass (you obviously had no idea that the whole Destiny case is getting absolutely ripped apart in court). Truly cringe.
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Now that’s what I’d expect from a Hasan fan, defending accusations of shocking his dog by deflecting to rant about Destiny.
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No you didn’t
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Hey, nice copy-pasta. I don’t care for your argument of authority. That dog was not having a good time staying in place for hours. In Europe we might care about animal welfare a bit more, than y’all do.
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I’m an anti-capitalist Anarchist, the other group you people hate ;-)
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You are a liberal
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The Coolzone media crew I guess? Everyone here is a piece of shit who deserves to burn in the hell they imagine.
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What you care about doesn’t matter, you are completely full of shit
Source on all that?
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Who is this
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Literally everything he’s said on Russia’s war in Ukraine. His worship of China. Animal abuse due to a powered (both electric shocks and vibrations are immoral imo) collar. Being an authoritarian cock-sucker generally.
What has he said about the Ukraine war?
He has consistently stated that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is wrong and is an imperialist endeavor. I haven’t heard him say a good word about Russia or Putin
He seems to give Russia the benefit of the doubt quite a bit. Him being wrong about Russia not attacking Ukraine would be fine, but he’s been on the pessimistic side when it comes to Ukraine’s chances from what I’ve seen. (I’m not saying the Ukrainian government is great, to be clear)
You are either incurably stupid or lying
Anything’s possible when you make shit up
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