Why should his family be punished for his actions? Is their right to privacy forfeit just because someone they’re related to has been accused of commiting a crime?
Yeah, maybe it’s the day, but Lemmy-sorted-by-Hot has had a lot of bloodthirsty comments lately that go just a step farther than I’m used to seeing
Why are we advocating that a murderer (i don’t need the court to confirm that part, but they will) have his family’s names revealed? I can’t do anything about my child rapist cousin, he’s in jail already and it’s not like anyone besides his parents even really knew, but putting MY name out there, as a trans woman, would get me killed.
You’re joking, right? There’s no way a trial ends in anything other than a guilty verdict. The whole world saw him commit those crimes on international news, some of use saw it live. The trial is basically a formality at this point, he wont be walking away from this.
Ah, so we don’t need courts anymore. Good to hear, this will surely bring many savings in the future. Sad to see that people are no longer equal under law, however.
Don’t try to put words in my mouth, I said that the trial is “basically a formality”, not “we don’t need courts”. Courts will always be necessary, even in cases like this where the defendant has such overwhelming evidence against them, everyone deserves the right to legal defense and their day in court. Just how much his lawyer can help him in this case?.. Well, let’s just say I don’t envy that lawyer or his job.
I don’t understand why people here are so keen to defend a man who is so clearly guilty. We all saw his rampage, the whole world saw it. He was caught on camera, clear as day, as he gunned down innocent people. He lost his right to anonymity when he pulled that trigger.
“Sad to see that people are no longer equal under law, however.”
This you?
I never said that, you just assumed the worst. Stop trying to twist my point to make me look like an *ist or *phobe or bigot just because I think mass murdering terrorists should be named and shamed.
I didn’t realise I’d have to remind others here that people are innocent until found guilty. By a court. Any action based on presuming the outcome is a breach of that. Add collective punishment to that and this whole situation looks very troubling.
Are you talking about the same system that puts innocent people in jail? Or the system that has built-in slavery? Or the system that actively protects pedos that rape our environment? Just checking…
Good, after what he did he doesn’t get anonymity, fuck him.
This seems less about his anonymity and more about the anonymity of the people who are unfortunate to have close association with him.
“But what about his family!”
He should have thought about his family before he started shooting innocent people.
Why should his family be punished for his actions? Is their right to privacy forfeit just because someone they’re related to has been accused of commiting a crime?
Yeah, maybe it’s the day, but Lemmy-sorted-by-Hot has had a lot of bloodthirsty comments lately that go just a step farther than I’m used to seeing
Why are we advocating that a murderer (i don’t need the court to confirm that part, but they will) have his family’s names revealed? I can’t do anything about my child rapist cousin, he’s in jail already and it’s not like anyone besides his parents even really knew, but putting MY name out there, as a trans woman, would get me killed.
Was he found guilty already?
You’re joking, right? There’s no way a trial ends in anything other than a guilty verdict. The whole world saw him commit those crimes on international news, some of use saw it live. The trial is basically a formality at this point, he wont be walking away from this.
Ah, so we don’t need courts anymore. Good to hear, this will surely bring many savings in the future. Sad to see that people are no longer equal under law, however.
Don’t try to put words in my mouth, I said that the trial is “basically a formality”, not “we don’t need courts”. Courts will always be necessary, even in cases like this where the defendant has such overwhelming evidence against them, everyone deserves the right to legal defense and their day in court. Just how much his lawyer can help him in this case?.. Well, let’s just say I don’t envy that lawyer or his job. I don’t understand why people here are so keen to defend a man who is so clearly guilty. We all saw his rampage, the whole world saw it. He was caught on camera, clear as day, as he gunned down innocent people. He lost his right to anonymity when he pulled that trigger.
I’m not putting words into your mouth, I’m saying what those words that you’ve said mean.
“Sad to see that people are no longer equal under law, however.”
This you?
I never said that, you just assumed the worst. Stop trying to twist my point to make me look like an *ist or *phobe or bigot just because I think mass murdering terrorists should be named and shamed.
I didn’t realise I’d have to remind others here that people are innocent until found guilty. By a court. Any action based on presuming the outcome is a breach of that. Add collective punishment to that and this whole situation looks very troubling.
We all saw his rampage on live TV, clear as day, for the whole world to see. Stop trying to defend a clearly guilt mass murdering terrorist.
Are you talking about the same system that puts innocent people in jail? Or the system that has built-in slavery? Or the system that actively protects pedos that rape our environment? Just checking…
Or the system that reveals the names of innocent people who had the unfortunate fate to be related to a vile person?