I mean, she describes it as a character flaw. She literally calls the entirety of Judaism morally bankrupt.
The fact that virtually all Jews and Jewish spaces are Zionist and support the existence of Israel is an indictment of us as a morally bankrupt people.
This is the treatment of the diaspora as all exactly the same that feels antisemitic in the way it’s presented. I appreciate the dialectical analysis that the Jewish cultural establishment is doing nothing to reduce its support of Israel. But she goes over the top in parts of the discussion and crosses a line, in my opinion.
She literally calls the entirety of Judaism morally bankrupt.
So can you describe to me the Judaism you’re talking about that isn’t the cause, justification, and driving force of a genocide? Or how genocide isn’t morally bankrupt? What exactly are you arguing?
Sorry, it appears you are also conflating Jewish people and Israel. Yes, the article describes how the majority of Jewish organizations do support this system. But saying an entire race of people is morally bankrupt is a bit over the edge for me.
I think you feel strongly about this and I don’t appreciate your aggression. I am suggesting that this author goes over the antisemitism line here, which I’m not wrong about.
Uh, no, the quote was about Judaism, not an entire race of people. Again, which Judaism are you saying it’s wrong to call morally bankrupt? What are you actually saying?
There was no aggression in my comment. I just asked you for any clarification whatsoever, any positive claim, and all you did, again, is say nothing at all.
The quote was about an entire people. Anyway, I’m definitely not saying nothing, and accusing me of not reading the article is quite aggressive. I think you should read the article again and really consider how generalizing an entire group of people, particularly when sloppy treatment of the line between Zionism and being Jewish is being weaponized these days, can be harmful and honestly antisemitic. Anyway, I guess I expected a bit more thoughtfulness from this place, with a critique pointing out the good and bad parts of this article, rather than just wholesale support of a good piece that is problematic in sections.
Is it Zionism to want Israel to exist? Is it Zionist to support politicians & community organizations that uphold Zionism? This, and more questions after the break—
I mean, she describes it as a character flaw. She literally calls the entirety of Judaism morally bankrupt.
This is the treatment of the diaspora as all exactly the same that feels antisemitic in the way it’s presented. I appreciate the dialectical analysis that the Jewish cultural establishment is doing nothing to reduce its support of Israel. But she goes over the top in parts of the discussion and crosses a line, in my opinion.
So can you describe to me the Judaism you’re talking about that isn’t the cause, justification, and driving force of a genocide? Or how genocide isn’t morally bankrupt? What exactly are you arguing?
Sorry, it appears you are also conflating Jewish people and Israel. Yes, the article describes how the majority of Jewish organizations do support this system. But saying an entire race of people is morally bankrupt is a bit over the edge for me.
I think you feel strongly about this and I don’t appreciate your aggression. I am suggesting that this author goes over the antisemitism line here, which I’m not wrong about.
Uh, no, the quote was about Judaism, not an entire race of people. Again, which Judaism are you saying it’s wrong to call morally bankrupt? What are you actually saying?
There was no aggression in my comment. I just asked you for any clarification whatsoever, any positive claim, and all you did, again, is say nothing at all.
You are.
The quote was about an entire people. Anyway, I’m definitely not saying nothing, and accusing me of not reading the article is quite aggressive. I think you should read the article again and really consider how generalizing an entire group of people, particularly when sloppy treatment of the line between Zionism and being Jewish is being weaponized these days, can be harmful and honestly antisemitic. Anyway, I guess I expected a bit more thoughtfulness from this place, with a critique pointing out the good and bad parts of this article, rather than just wholesale support of a good piece that is problematic in sections.
Look, I don’t feel that strongly about this - I just think it’s a particularly bad look for hexbear to support an antisemitic viewpoint.
Is it Zionism to want Israel to exist? Is it Zionist to support politicians & community organizations that uphold Zionism? This, and more questions after the break—