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  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.mlOP
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    30 days ago

    It has already been uncomfortable enough. A friend of mine enjoys it so I am reading it for him 😔

    Some of it is not so good but the story is interesting enough. They think it is far more nuanced than the fandom suggests but a part of me just thinks the author is a creep.

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      Miura was absolutely a creep, there’s no way to credibly argue against that when the Lost Children sub-arc is right there. For what it’s worth, while I wouldn’t say it ever goes away, I feel it gets toned down late in the series, certainly not reflecting the earlier barbaric depravity even if it’s still creepy in ways more common to male-targeted manga.

      Some people just want to cope and say that this manga they emotionally resonate with isn’t creepy, but cope is all it is in 99% of cases.

      One of the most interesting things about the work to me isn’t that it’s some immaculate masterpiece, but that Miura seemingly poured his whole soul into his work from when he started it at just 23(!) until he died at 54(!) and you can see a lot of change in the series over time that he broadly did not plan for. By this I don’t just mean that he worked very hard, though famously he did, and the long-term effects of that overwork were a major factor in him dying so young, but he seems to have put himself in the work for better or worse (and we can plainly see that it several times meant worse), so that makes it like watching him change by proxy in a way that you very rarely really get to see with just about any continuous work of art, with one story and cast of characters and setting.

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        30 days ago

        Yeah the lost children arc has been very uncomfortable. You don’t mean to tell me it gets worse right? Guts hasn’t fought Rosine yet I wonder if it is worth it

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          The Lost Children sub-arc is easily the worst sub-arc in terms of creep shit. There are some individual scenes after Lost Children that are still pretty bad (if I remember the order right, since they are mostly pretty incidental scenes), but in terms of overarching situations I don’t think it ever gets close to being that bad, the one exception being that there’s a teenage girl who joins the cast right near the end that is repeatedly sexualized, etc. Still creepy and worthy of condemnation but not on the level of the stuff in Lost Children that I feel genuinely uncomfortable with describing.

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            30 days ago

            there’s a teenage girl who joins the cast right near the end that is repeatedly sexualized

            It’s been about a year since I last read berserk, I don’t remember some sexualised teen near the end. Who was that?

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          Id say it’s worth it. Miura kind of starts to grow away from being an edgelord creep and over time he looks back on who he was and deals with that too throug Berserk. Also there’s some absolutely amazing art coming up

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        One of the cool things about Berserk in my eyes is seeing Miura grow through the series. He stops being a creepy edgelord, he becomes better - or that’s what it seems like in my eyes. And not only does he get better, he starts to deal with how he was. Casca being afraid of Guts and how it’s all dealt with…