• Norin@lemmy.world
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    It’s probably better to read the philosophers Uncle Ted was pulling from (and ultimately failed to understand).

    Ellul especially.

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      Might be a matter of taste, but ISAIF is worth a read on the basis of its wild mix of sociological brilliance and unhingedness IMO. That’s not to say I endorse blowing people up in the slightest, but the work stands taller than the sum of its influences.

      E.g. I think he synthesized and added to quite a few different authors in presenting his concept of oversocialization. (Please do correct me if I’m off-base — I love philosophy but it’s not my main wheelhouse).

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            You enjoy doing extra work? Why not explain the gibberish acronym in the first comment?

            Oh! I’m soooo sorry! I thought everyone wrote their dissertation on Ted “My First Love” Kaczynski?

            Listen to yourself, you sound ridiculous.

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              It’s just off-the-cuff writing without copyediting. Tad sloppy, but weird hate, homie.

              E: To squarely address my view of Teddy K, he’s in the same bucket as Karl Marx, Otto Von Bismarck, Rasputin, etc. Not someone whose core values I share, or think is a good person — but a historically interesting character who has cultural symbolic importance for the role they played in their respective time and place.

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              24 hours ago

              As a person of average intelligence, I knew exactly what the acronym was. Not sure the issue here.

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                9 hours ago

                Very true, knowing random trivia is a sign of intelligence and definitely not a side product of you being terminally online.

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                    Or, or or or, the OP could explain what it means in their comment. That would be crazy though! You should always assume everyone knows just as much as you do on your favorite mass murderer. Including as much jargon as you can when discussing your hobby is best practice, after all.

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        23 hours ago

        Ted misses a lot in Jacques Ellul’s The Technological Society, which is where I’d start off f your looking for philosophers critical of modern technology.

        If you’re curious on that particular subject, I’d also recommend Lewis Mumford’s Myth of the Machine or The City in History.

        Or, for something that’s less of a tome (both Ellul and Mumford can be overly wordy), Ivan Illich’s Tools for Conviviality is incredibly critical of the modern world, but also offers hope that isn’t based on mailing bombs to universities.

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          Ellul is a wonderful author, very inspiring. As someone inspired both by Christianity and anarchism, he’s one of the authors in my personal pantheon.

          Just don’t read his texts about Israel.

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          Huh. I picked that up from a used book stand on a whim just based on the tile and skimming it, like ten years ago. I should probably read it.