Around 2015, My niece told me she worked at a bank teller and the first thing they did was require her to install the bank’s app and rate it five stars. She said her phone is too old and they got angry. And she’d tell me they’d do “phone sweeps” to see if the app was on people’s phones.
Do min-wage companies still do this or do they know better?
I’ve just straight up told an employer before that if a smart phone was required to do my job then they needed to provide me a company phone.
they found other options for me, but it really pissed off my supervisor. eventually i left because he was an asshole. gave them a -1 day notice and just stopped showing up. i do freelance work now. they deserved that hit.
They can fire you for any reason, like if they hate you’re gay. They don’t SAY that. They wishy washy it with “not a cultural fit”. Or throw you into difficult situations so they can fire you with “unable to complete tasks”.
I have Europeans who joined my company surprised at how little protection they get.
Correct, some contracts cannot be done. Depending on the specifics, the illegal parts of the contract are unenforceable, or the entire thing is null and void. Employers often hate this, because it limits the exploitation they can enact upon employees.
When I was in school they once checked everyone’s phones to make sure we had installed Twitter and followed the school’s accounts for each department. That was about a decade ago so it’s probably TikTok or something by now.
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Around 2015, My niece told me she worked at a bank teller and the first thing they did was require her to install the bank’s app and rate it five stars. She said her phone is too old and they got angry. And she’d tell me they’d do “phone sweeps” to see if the app was on people’s phones.
Do min-wage companies still do this or do they know better?
Lmao wtf? Sounds illegal as hell.
I’m not installing anything work requires on my personal devices, f ‘em.
I have told managers, to their faces, I do not have a smart phone… While holding my smart phone.
So far, while most have quite noticeably glanced at my phone, none have actually called me out on it.
If any of them ever do, I will just get a prepaid flip phone and use that for work.
“What’s that in your hand, then?”
“That’s not my hand.”
Potato?
I’ve just straight up told an employer before that if a smart phone was required to do my job then they needed to provide me a company phone.
they found other options for me, but it really pissed off my supervisor. eventually i left because he was an asshole. gave them a -1 day notice and just stopped showing up. i do freelance work now. they deserved that hit.
Welcome to employee abuse. When your job is tied to whether you can pay rent, health insurance and credit, they’ve got you by the balls.
Personal devices are personal.
Nowhere in the civilized world are they allowed to do this.
America is a pro-business country.
They can fire you for any reason, like if they hate you’re gay. They don’t SAY that. They wishy washy it with “not a cultural fit”. Or throw you into difficult situations so they can fire you with “unable to complete tasks”.
I have Europeans who joined my company surprised at how little protection they get.
They don’t even have to give a reason. The only reason they’ll try to justify it is to prevent the employee from getting unemployment benefits.
right to work state here. they can fire me because they don’t like my haircut.
Union worker here. They can’t fire me for shit unless I really fuck up
When I worked at UPS, we weren’t allowed to have beards and our hair couldn’t be long enough to touch our ears. Literally fireable offenses.
yeah they are. if they pay your phone bill.
Then it’s not a personal device
Still no in any civilized society.
it’s literally a contractual provision. are contracts not allowed in societies? or civilization?
Correct, some contracts cannot be done. Depending on the specifics, the illegal parts of the contract are unenforceable, or the entire thing is null and void. Employers often hate this, because it limits the exploitation they can enact upon employees.
If they’re paying your bill, buy another phone that’s “work only”. Although you shouldn’t have to buy the second phone either, well, here we are.
i mean, i’d probably just dual sim and pocket the money or something
It’s my understanding that companies (in some countries, at least) can demand access to personal data on company phones?
oh gods i’m in the executive phase of my career (or would be if i wasn’t disabled) aren’t i. that’s terrifying
uh, post! execute posting! maybe that will get me out of it.
There is a bank in the UK that used employee bank balances to prove they didn’t need a pay rise last year, which they were able to do because banking with them was a condition of employment
When I was in school they once checked everyone’s phones to make sure we had installed Twitter and followed the school’s accounts for each department. That was about a decade ago so it’s probably TikTok or something by now.
If nobody causes noise, everything goes.
Yeah our work we have to get Duo 2FA and I don’t like that, so every time I use it, I explicitly allow network permissions and then turn it off again