How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/


@lalo @Lumisal Vegans by definition are not speciesist, we do not believe ourselves to be superior to other species, our lives are no more important than theirs are. Your definition of need is self serving and superior.
I haven’t defined ‘need’ nor brought up speciecism.
I purposefully left for the reader to decide if the medicine is needed or not. No evaluation of the ‘need’ on my part. Just pointing out that if animal exploitation is needed, this animal exploitation isn’t needless.
@lalo “Is the medicine needed for you? Then it isn’t needless animal exploitation.”
“needed”
you are a speciesist.
Did I say “medicine is needed” or did I say “medicine is not needed”?