You: There is a complete lack of revolutionary potential in this particular group and thus they will pursue endless reformist attempts with a rotating cast of opportunists
Me: Then try to convince other people and groups that do have revolutionary potential as trying to convert that group is pointless if they are stoutly dedicated to reformist apologia.
i’m just japing. some small percentage of them will grow out of it, they just need to be given a kick on the butt. It only seems eternal because there’s always new children coming of age who haven’t learned how politics works yet
Gotcha, I was really confused for a minute, actually sat there for like 5 minutes with paper trying to see what I was missing trying to square the circle. Most the Mamdani stans I know were literally too young for Obama, Bernie, and AOC, and no one reads Lenin (I’m only being slightly hyperbolic) so basically aren’t going to learn this lesson until they’re smacked in the face with it.
my anger is more directed at the power users (some are mods) here who repeat this shit over and over, and I know they know better. They’ve been on this website for 6 years, and the CTH subreddit before that. They’re like 30+ years old at this point surely. That is the stubborn stone that will not move. I don’t know what you do with these kinds of people. They see the repeated betrayals and failures and just keep doing it while being smug.
I think it’s fundamentally a class thing. These people are too comfy and treated up.
Should’ve seen the EMPOC Zionism struggle sessions, there are some brainworms which there is no desire to fully rectify and no ability to compulsively change. I’ve resorted to broad snide comments since I generally enjoy the site, but there are certain things that I just accept are unlikely to change.
No all they learn is that this one batch of yeast was flawed, not yeasty enough, and go back to try it again with a new batch of yeast. Forever.
Then no need to argue with them at all because its pointless to try to make them a baker.
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i’m just japing. some small percentage of them will grow out of it, they just need to be given a kick on the butt. It only seems eternal because there’s always new children coming of age who haven’t learned how politics works yet
Gotcha, I was really confused for a minute, actually sat there for like 5 minutes with paper trying to see what I was missing trying to square the circle. Most the Mamdani stans I know were literally too young for Obama, Bernie, and AOC, and no one reads Lenin (I’m only being slightly hyperbolic) so basically aren’t going to learn this lesson until they’re smacked in the face with it.
my anger is more directed at the power users (some are mods) here who repeat this shit over and over, and I know they know better. They’ve been on this website for 6 years, and the CTH subreddit before that. They’re like 30+ years old at this point surely. That is the stubborn stone that will not move. I don’t know what you do with these kinds of people. They see the repeated betrayals and failures and just keep doing it while being smug.
I think it’s fundamentally a class thing. These people are too comfy and treated up.
Should’ve seen the EMPOC Zionism struggle sessions, there are some brainworms which there is no desire to fully rectify and no ability to compulsively change. I’ve resorted to broad snide comments since I generally enjoy the site, but there are certain things that I just accept are unlikely to change.