• StaySquared@lemmy.world
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    Good.

    In my case, it was pretty effed up and I know some of yall are going to dislike this comment. When covid hit, I was instructed by the CTO to put a plan together to quickly make every employee remote accessible to the organization. Upon completing this project (took roughly 3 weeks since majority of employees were working off laptops and only needed to increase our VPN license count - gotta love Cisco), people were asked to work fully remote and if they needed to come into work, they just needed to send an email for approval from their manager to come into the office the following day.

    When an employee comes into the office, at the entrance they had to either show their vax card or get their temperature checked, if the employee had a vax card, they were allowed to go to their assigned desk to work, if you did not have a vax card and didn’t have a high temperature, you were sent to a designated area of the building to work from, you were allowed to go to your desk to get any belongings you’d need then come back to the designated area.

    After 3 months of this, the company had a new policy, all employees must be vaxxed in order to enter the building, no exceptions. If the employee worked remote, no problem you weren’t required to be vaxxed. The CTO tells me that I need to communicate to the entire IT team that we will now be RTO (returning to office) permanently, this included project managers… IT is a set of departments that majority can easily work remote. A small portion could come into office to do any hands on work but because the hands on work was done within a specific region of the building it would require these employees to be vaxxed and to provide proof of it. So the CTO decided instead of targeting a small handful of IT professionals, he would just get the entire IT team to get vaxxed and come back into office permanently.

    I told the CTO that I don’t plan to get vaxxed, I’d rather ride it out. And that other team members felt the same. The CTO gave me an ultimatum. I told him I will send out an IT wide email but that’s the only command I will obey. Flat out, CTO tells me anyone who doesn’t get vaxxed will be terminated. So I and 4 others got terminated two weeks later.

    And now, companies around the U.S. are getting sued for their employer-imposed vaccine mandates.

    Last laugh, bitch.

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      Glad you got fired. Vaccines should always be mandatory save for legitimate, doctor-validated medical exemptions.

      Anti-vaxxers are fucking stupid and should either be educated properly or, if they still refuse to do their civic duty after being de-programmed of misinformation, punished. You are only allowed to participate in society if you take the necessary steps that you are morally and ethically obligated to do in order to protect it from preventable, transmissible disease. We had eradicated polio until stupid motherfuckers like yourself decided that it would be a good idea to forgo the standard polio vaccine schedule that we’ve had for decades. Now, we saw the first case in 30 years in 2022 because someone selfishly thought that their personal beliefs were more important than the health and livelihood of everyone else.

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        I understand your anger and agree that anti-vaxxers are stupid. I believe public health education should be part of the school system.

        I also agree that it’s responsible for a society to impose reasonable restrictions on members that endanger it.

        I think people do have an ethical obligation to take reasonable precautions avoid potentially exposing others to pathogens. Vaccination is an example of reasonable precaution. People have the right to bodily autonomy, do not vaccinate them against their wishes.

        I do not support the firing of workers for refusing vaccinations if they can do their job remotely. People shouldn’t have to decide between their religious beliefs and employment if their employment doesn’t bring them into contact with others. (Imo anti-vaxx is essentially a religion, this may say more about my beliefs regarding religion than about anti-vaxx sentiment).

        By all means exclude the unvaccinated from places where they can be reasonably understood to endanger the public, or others that have a similar right to be there.

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        Yeah, me too. In the end it turned out great for me and my family. Literally that job in the Bay allowed us to save even more money allowing us to buy a large property. And if all goes the way we hope, I can eject myself out of the job market and enjoy life with my fam. No more wage slave life.

        Pssst… people were still getting the flu after their vaccines, after multiple vaccines. You know what the flu did to me? Literally, lost of taste. I couldn’t taste salt for about 4 days. Happened twice only, thankfully. I’ll personally take that a million times over.

        Stay salty, brah.

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      I dunno, you lost your job for no good reason. Did you sue?

      Kinda seems like they have the last laugh.

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        And most likely any job will require proof of a vaccine. OP fucked around and is finding out. But yeah the companies being sued

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          Nah… after leaving the org in the Bay area, I joined a new org this Jan… it’s no longer the terrorist we thought it was.

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        I believe it was a blessing. One door shut, another one, a few months later opened. I had to move from Southern California to the Bay… where my salary was a little more than 1.5x the previous salary and this company, a video game developing company, interestingly, didn’t have such requirements in order to work there or come into office (it was like 90% remote work, only came into office to work on projects with my team).

        Nope, they didn’t have the last laugh. Good thing I didn’t sign the NDA either at the time of termination.

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          NDA’s are legally unenforcable anyways. You know what’s totally legally enforceable? Shunning plague carriers. Lmao I honestly hope you get out of yout typhoid mary phase before you kill someone you care about, but we all wish bad things happen to bad people.

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            NDAs are very much legally enforceable lol. A nitable time they aren’t, is if there has been illegal activity the NDA is trying to compel you to keep secret.

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            You still get infected…

            Wait a minute, are you people under the impression that the vaccine protected you from getting covid and spreading covid?

            Is that what’s happening here?

            Sure call me a plague carrier, but my blood is clean. Yours? haha

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              That’s how virus carriers work. Blood clean of any way to stop the spread. Lmao gimme that muddy bloody soup full of every antibody known on this planet. My body is full of legions of Rambo mfs looking to fuck up any intruder on sight. Your blood is an open field with a welcome mat and a bottle of wine. My infection is killed off in hours while yours sets up a nice summer home to come back every year.

              You know where clean bloodlines end up? On headstones.

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                That’s cool… I rarely get sick though. And for something like the flu? I rather depend on my immune system. Maybe when I’m 60 or 70 years old. Or when I get sick more frequently, I’ll take medication more seriously.

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                  1. Covid has more than 10x the mortality rate of common flu
                  2. even without vaccine you still have an immune system, but not as ready against covid, and you spread it for a longer period which can be fatal for those around you, especially older people or people with a bad immune system

                  I don’t get what you people have against vaccines. They saved millions of lives over the years and the causation is clear beyond any doubt.

                  You are te proof that the education system sucks.

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                  Vaccine deniers are a truly interesting breed. Do you just not have a full grasp of biology or are you too busy getting in your head about some shit you made up?

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                    Do you just not have a full grasp of biology or are you too busy getting in your head about some shit you made up?

                    Yes. Both are true about antivaxxers.

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              It’s not about completely preventing infection, you can still get infected. It’s about minimizing the odds of infection and lowering severity when infected, to mitigate transmission as much as possible. It’s more about society as a collective and less about the individual. You can ride it out, sure. But if you pass it along to someone who can’t, then what?

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      getting sued for their employer-imposed vaccine mandates

      The only case I’ve seen succeed is for a company that ignored legitimate religious exceptions. Have you seen any successful cases that support your use case?