the handshake meme, on one side liberals talking about Ukraine. on the other, conservatives talking about a mass shooter. the handshake “that swastika tattoo doesn’t necessarily mean he was a Nazi”

    • crediblethreatOPEnglish
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      29 days ago

      right. and the azov battalion are committed fascists

    • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
      71·
      29 days ago

      Does this meme imply otherwise? /gen

      I don’t see anything denying that Russia itself doesn’t have a fascist infestation, just points to western hypocrisy as far as I understand it

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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        29 days ago

        Not defending western hypocrisy in general, but I support self-determination over military invasions. Most imperialist adventures were justified by claiming that the invaded nation was somehow bad enough to deserve it and it has always been bullshit.

        • алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.comMEnglish
          81·
          29 days ago

          I don’t disagree with you, it’s just that enthusiastic liberals love to gloss over issues like relatively widespread corruption and fascist elements in Ukraine. Also Ukraine doesn’t have a white west in terms of war crimes either (Amnesty International reported on that IIRC).
          What I mean to say is: uncritical, blind support is a big blunder IMO

          Most imperialist adventures were justified by claiming that the invaded nation was somehow bad enough to deserve it and it has always been bullshit.

          Exactly, it’s basically what I said in my other comment.