I think almost everyone misunderstood what you were getting at. To be fair, it was pretty confusing.
You’re saying “Cyclists are told to be on the road. Cyclists aren’t protected as well as drivers are. Why should bikes be on the road if that’s the case?”
To address your question pragmatically, because the next best option most of the time is to be on the sidewalk, and cyclists die more often per km cycled on the sidewalk than on the road.
Right of way crossings are extremely dangerous, and riding on the sidewalk creates more such crossings that are even more dangerous than the ones encountered on the road, because drivers don’t have the visibility to anticipate the cyclist. Riding through right of way crossings where drivers expect pedestrians gets you killed.
When I ride on sidewalks, I cross carefully. If there is any chance of a car coming, I slow down significantly to the point of getting off my bike at times.
Where I live, I have more close calls at such intersections in the bike lanes because cars like to try to make right turns in front of me. The first one can usually get in front, and I have to stop to not get hit, then the one behind thinks that they get to do the same thing.
I figure that walking my bike across an intersection isn’t much different than someone pulling a grocery cart across the street.
Most studies that considered sidewalk-riding suggested that it is particularly hazardous for cyclists, with estimates of 1.8 to 16 times the risk of cycling on-road [29,66-68,71]. However one study found that the risk of traveling on the sidewalk was the same or lower than riding on residential streets [64]. Another considered the direction of travel and found that the elevated risk when sidewalk cyclists entered intersections was almost exclusively related to cycling against the flow of adjacent on-road traffic
It can seem counter-intuitive that riding where the cars are is safer, but if you think about it, it makes sense. Cars don’t expect fast-moving vehicles on the sidewalk (they often barely expect pedestrians…), the constant curbs impacts your flow while riding, people more often ride against traffic on the sidewalk than on the road, and honestly people riding on sidewalks probably tend towards more inexperienced than people who feel comfortable riding on the road.
people more often ride against traffic on the sidewalk than on the road
There may also be a case of taking the sidewalknis done on my risky roads, that is difficult to control for.
In my case I ride one section against the road on the sidewalk because the alternative is to cross a road of 80kph+ traffic twice in 600m with a toddler. In the other direction we ride on the road because we don’t have to cross it, and the traffic is usually only doing 10 kph.
It’s situational surely, and I think an experienced cyclist knows when to take the sidewalk. But an experience cyclist also needs to know that sidewalks ARE NOT SAFE, they are just a less unsafe alternative when road conditions become intolerably unsafe, and they need to use even more caution than they normally do on the road when they take that option.
I agree, I’m just curious if you see more sidewalk riding because the roads are so unsafe, thus making the adjacent sidewalks unsafe, thus making sidewalks appear more unsafe than they really are.
It’s not an easy factor to tease out of the data; and frankly it’s a discussion that should be avoided because it pits cyclists and pedestrians into discussion about the sliver of space left over when tons is already given to motorists.
To me, this sounds a bit like crosswalks/intersections are the unsafe part rather than sidewalks.
It’s a rule of thumb for cyclists to walk their bikes across intersections (even on bike paths/trails!), turning cyclists into pedestrians. Not that pedestrians are particularly safe where I live, but that would address part of the issue here.
Sidewalks where I live tend to have boulevards (grass off to either side for cyclists to pull onto), which may be different than the environments where these studies took place (I’m picturing buildings on one side and roads on the other).
I think almost everyone misunderstood what you were getting at. To be fair, it was pretty confusing.
You’re saying “Cyclists are told to be on the road. Cyclists aren’t protected as well as drivers are. Why should bikes be on the road if that’s the case?”
To address your question pragmatically, because the next best option most of the time is to be on the sidewalk, and cyclists die more often per km cycled on the sidewalk than on the road.
Really? That surprises me. Do you have a source for that?
Right of way crossings are extremely dangerous, and riding on the sidewalk creates more such crossings that are even more dangerous than the ones encountered on the road, because drivers don’t have the visibility to anticipate the cyclist. Riding through right of way crossings where drivers expect pedestrians gets you killed.
Ah, that makes sense.
When I ride on sidewalks, I cross carefully. If there is any chance of a car coming, I slow down significantly to the point of getting off my bike at times.
Where I live, I have more close calls at such intersections in the bike lanes because cars like to try to make right turns in front of me. The first one can usually get in front, and I have to stop to not get hit, then the one behind thinks that they get to do the same thing.
I figure that walking my bike across an intersection isn’t much different than someone pulling a grocery cart across the street.
I found this source with some info. Quoting a relevant bit:
It can seem counter-intuitive that riding where the cars are is safer, but if you think about it, it makes sense. Cars don’t expect fast-moving vehicles on the sidewalk (they often barely expect pedestrians…), the constant curbs impacts your flow while riding, people more often ride against traffic on the sidewalk than on the road, and honestly people riding on sidewalks probably tend towards more inexperienced than people who feel comfortable riding on the road.
There may also be a case of taking the sidewalknis done on my risky roads, that is difficult to control for.
In my case I ride one section against the road on the sidewalk because the alternative is to cross a road of 80kph+ traffic twice in 600m with a toddler. In the other direction we ride on the road because we don’t have to cross it, and the traffic is usually only doing 10 kph.
It’s situational surely, and I think an experienced cyclist knows when to take the sidewalk. But an experience cyclist also needs to know that sidewalks ARE NOT SAFE, they are just a less unsafe alternative when road conditions become intolerably unsafe, and they need to use even more caution than they normally do on the road when they take that option.
I agree, I’m just curious if you see more sidewalk riding because the roads are so unsafe, thus making the adjacent sidewalks unsafe, thus making sidewalks appear more unsafe than they really are.
It’s not an easy factor to tease out of the data; and frankly it’s a discussion that should be avoided because it pits cyclists and pedestrians into discussion about the sliver of space left over when tons is already given to motorists.
Thank you for sharing; great points.
To me, this sounds a bit like crosswalks/intersections are the unsafe part rather than sidewalks.
It’s a rule of thumb for cyclists to walk their bikes across intersections (even on bike paths/trails!), turning cyclists into pedestrians. Not that pedestrians are particularly safe where I live, but that would address part of the issue here.
Sidewalks where I live tend to have boulevards (grass off to either side for cyclists to pull onto), which may be different than the environments where these studies took place (I’m picturing buildings on one side and roads on the other).